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Old 03-27-2013, 09:09 AM   #1639
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I've got a 2,000 mile trip coming up next month. All things considered and being ticked off about this Atwood/Andersen incompatibility issue, I ordered a Propride hitch.

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Since the Andersen is so easy to install and only weighs 60 lbs why don't you take it with you so you can at less have a comfortable ride on the way home. 1,000 miles should be enough to convince you.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:13 AM   #1640
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I own and use an Andersen hitch, and love the way it works, but it's not on my Airstream.

I think it would be a great hitch on the Airstream also, if it weren't for the Atwood coupler. Personally, I don't think the Atwood coupler is worth a crap, regardless of the WD system.

If you think I'm being overly critical of the Atwood, do this test.....take a bare 2 5/15" ball, and insert it into the Atwood, latch, and then test it to see how much play is present between the Atwood and the ball.

This play has got to be contributing to instability of the trailer behind the tow vehicle. It's just a little bit better than a pintle hitch.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:15 AM   #1641
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Since the Andersen is so easy to install and only weighs 60 lbs why don't you take it with you so you can at less have a comfortable ride on the way home. 1,000 miles should be enough to convince you.
Howie, the problem with this idea for Doug is the weight and effort it takes to remove the ProPride. The thing weighs 220 pounds +,-, and takes about two hours to install, best case.

Although, it can be removed in about an hour, but lifting it..........if I have to take it off and/or move it, I use a floor jack on rollers.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:44 AM   #1642
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Howie, I've got 4,000 miles with the Andersen now and am extremely happy with the way it performs. But with a long trip coming very soon, and another this summer, I just can't see cutting off the incompatible Atwood coupler to install another style, not being completely sure it will work in the long run either.

The only other hitch I am convinced will provide greater stability than the Andersen is a Propride, so that's what I ordered.

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Old 03-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #1643
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I am aware of what will take for him to install and remove the PP. The only saving grace is when he removes it he can just leave it by the side of the road and improve his gas mileage on the way home.

Best of both worlds
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:26 PM   #1644
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Loosening up the friction bar type sway control for wet/icy conditions is part of EAZ-LIFT published instructions dating back to the 1960's when I first read it. Maybe earlier (as, IIRC, their WD hitch came out ca. 1953).
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:57 PM   #1645
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Good thing I have an Andersen system. I don't have to worry about those pesky bars. Set it and forget it for another day on the road.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:27 AM   #1646
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Just to clarify the sway control question and my so called commercial motives. Normally I try and stay away from comments on specific hitch brands but somehow I wound up in this thread and I just want to keep it factual.

1) For a dealer a proper hitch set up is not a profit center. The time you spend explaining road testing and fine tuning eats up what little profit there is in any hitch. Likely why so few dealers pay any attention to hitches. We do because we hope a customer set up properly will be a happy customer and hopefully send us more customers. I suppose part of it is also that we enjoy learning about and playing with different combinations. Some guys have race cars, some motorcyles, I play with hitches and tow vehicles. Bottom line financially it does not matter what kind of hitch we sell. We have no financial interest in any hitch company.

2) We do not install Dual Cam or Equalizer brand hitches for a variety of reasons but one of the big reasons is the same reason I am uncomfortable recomending an Anderson, you cannot adjust or turn off the sway control. In our climate it is a factor. Grant you in 40 years I have only seen a handful of incidents where the tow vehicle would not turn and caused the combination to go straight through an intersection or bend in the road. Interestingly though 2 of those were greasy wet roads not icy ones.

3) A Hensley or a ProPride do not have or require sway control of any kind they do not require friction to maintain control of the trailer. It is the geometry of the hitch that acheives that. They cannot cause the tow vehicle to lock in a straight ahead position. They are both in a completely different league from all other hitches. Though we have fine tuned the set up for a lot of ProPride owners we install Hensley's instead of Pro Prides just because there are a few details we like better on the Hensley. The principal behind both hitches is sound and well proven. In other words if you remove a Hensley or Pro Pride to install any other kind of hitch you are reducing the control you have presently.

I am not trying to blow my own horn here I just want to make it clear no one has close to the amount of experience with different trailers, tow vehicles and hitch systems that we do. I mentioned my concerns based on that experience. You can listen to my concerns or ignore them it is totally up to you but please understand they are not made for any financial reason.

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Old 03-28-2013, 09:07 AM   #1647
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If you are buying new have the dealer get a quote from Airstream for installing the Coupler you want. But keep in mind even though the OEM price for the coupling is most likely the same as the stock one they use Airstream may come back with a price higher than if you just taking delivery on a stock coupler and cutting it off.

The smarter trailer manufactures will see this coming and start to off a coupler compatible with the Andersen.
I was told by Randy at the mother ship that AS buys their frames with couplers already installed via a subcontractor ....
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Sometimes I just have shake my head and have a good laugh at some of the post here.
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Careful now Chief, Don't shake tooooooo hard. Some of this may then begin to make sense !!!!
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Careful now Chief, Don't shake tooooooo hard. Some of this may then begin to make sense !!!!
Slim chance of that happening. I never claim to understand any of this kitchen table napkin fuzzy math engineering. I am more interested in real world actual experience from Andersen owners. Not from folks with not so secret agendas. It is what it is.
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Slim chance of that happening. I never claim to understand any of this kitchen table napkin fuzzy math engineering. I am more interested in real world actual experience from Andersen owners. Not from folks with not so secret agendas. It is what it is.
Michael,
I'm pleased you have found something that works for you. But, as a retired Naval officer, you well know that if it weren't for all that "table napkin fuzzy math", this ship would never sail.

Thanks for your service. Your dedication to serve is what makes these kinds of discussions possible.

Carry on gentlemen.
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Ok and thank you, (I think)
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