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Old 07-11-2013, 08:13 AM   #2081
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Doug you have make your point and it is time for you to move on, please.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:24 PM   #2082
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Howie, who did you buy the new Andersen WD system thru? I am doing some additional trailer shopping and might be needing a new Andersen WD system before long.
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I just got finished with about 3,800 miles of camping through Arizona, Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Bear Lake (UT), North Rim of Grand Canyon, and the Mogollion Rim forest north of Phoenix. We towed up hill, downhill, rain, snow, windy and calm. I wish I had a little more horsepower however the Anderson performed as I expected, perfect, and I could make slight adjustment as our load changed throughout the trip by adding or removing turn of the nut.

I also noticed that my other travel companions that have more traditional WD hitch setups with bars and such were always hesitant to disconnect once we arrived at camp because a of the pain of setting up again.

I keep looking for the problems reported here but my setup have been working great so far. I will certainly post otherwise should that change.

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We just got home from a short trip through New York and New England states. Still happy with the Anderson. This morning I drove through probably the most stressful area that I know of. That is I-95 through southern Ct. and into New York. Narrow lanes, lots of heavy truck traffic, construction ( of course ) and heavy rain, bad roads all added up to make one of the highest stress areas to travel through. Trailer or no trailer. I usually go to great lengths to avoid this route but this time just had to bite the bullet and go for it. Truck and trailer in combination with the Anderson hitch did a fine job. So, still liking it and will be off again in about 2 weeks.
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OK, I am finally ready to tackle the coupler replacement issue. After reviewing several posts on this thread and other places I decided to go with the Quickbite. So I have ordered one. Apparently quickbite no longer has a website, but I was able to locate the 2 5/16" version on Tweety's website.

My understanding from a couple of posts is that the best way to add it is to weld it OVER the old Atwood plate after cutting off the ball area at the front. If I were to strip off the old plate I would need spacing strips to line everything up correctly. I would love to hear from anyone who has successfully done it this way.Thanks

p.s. my next door neighbor is a welder and volunteered his services. How great it that!
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Post 1396 and after will give you my experience with the quickbit.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...92131-100.html

it is important that you keep the top plate of the old Atwood to align the jack and hold the frame while working.
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Thanks Howie! That's what I was looking for. I did do a search and read dozens of post at both ends, but just didn't come to it. This thread needs it's own table of contents. lol.

Those pics and comments will help me and my neighbor immensely.

Now that I have accepted the fact that I have to change the coupler I am looking forward to trying out the quick bite. It comes with the 2 guide rods. I used to use the tennis ball on a car antenna method. Currently I use a cheap wireless camera, but this looks way better. BTW I usually hitch up alone, and prefer it that way.
Well my neighbor cut and ground off the old Atwood this afternoon. We had to redrill the tongue jack bolt hole cutouts on the new quick bite, as they did not quite line up with the atwood holes. But now everything fits well. Monday his boss is bringing the heavy duty welding shop on a truck to my backyard and the welding will commence.

There was more gap between the atwood and the quickbite than I expected. If we had cut off the old atwood completely it would have been huge.

But the quickbite is a nice piece of trailer tech. And now that I see it in person I will definitely feel more secure towing with my Andersen system. And I won't be afraid to tighten it up more for better weigh transfer and handling.

BTW I bought my quickbite from Tweety's rv. It was $22.74 for shipping/handling and arrived in about 3 days. Very pleased with the quick service. Total bill was $160.08. This is the black powder coated version with mostly stainless parts inside, but not the XT model (couldn't find that one anywhere). Looks quality and has a lifetime warranty (life of the trailer).
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Just ignore these Andersen hitch DETRACTORS especially those heavily invested in the rigid PP or any bar-type hitches. The bar-type hitch unless you're meticulous in weighing your set-up as I am not will cause problems in wear down the road. Andy of Inland has commented on that early on in the PP thread. Rear-end separations, doors not shutting properly and so on and on due to their rigidity from not being perfectly weight balanced regularly.
The Andersen has been such a soft ride a huge difference in my towing life. Guess what, no more weighing, too. After towing for thousands of miles it is the best hitch bar-none for me. BTW, no welding on my brackets either, just flip the inner brackets w/ the set-screws on top opposing the outer bracket screws is holding just like they were welded. The Andersen is the best today and will only get better or unless someone else will topple it. Free market is great.
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But you have to admit they so add a bit entertainment value to what would be a dull thread with nothing but happy owners and users of the highly effective Andersen WD system.
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Just ignore these Andersen hitch DETRACTORS especially those heavily invested in the rigid PP or any bar-type hitches. The bar-type hitch unless you're meticulous in weighing your set-up as I am not will cause problems in wear down the road. Andy of Inland has commented on that early on in the PP thread. Rear-end separations, doors not shutting properly and so on and on due to their rigidity from not being perfectly weight balanced regularly.
The Andersen has been such a soft ride a huge difference in my towing life. Guess what, no more weighing, too. After towing for thousands of miles it is the best hitch bar-none for me. BTW, no welding on my brackets either, just flip the inner brackets w/ the set-screws on top opposing the outer bracket screws is holding just like they were welded. The Andersen is the best today and will only get better or unless someone else will topple it. Free market is great.
Ignore them at your own peril.

Not only has Andersen warned that it is not compatible with the Airstream Atwood coupler (can wear and disconnect the trailer), a recent poster also had the latch wear and uncouple on a Marvel coupler. He got rid of his Andersen as others have done, including me.

The hitch is only effective for complete weight distribution with a very light tongue weight, and even that is questionable.

Those who are experiencing a soft ride ought to question why. Part of it is the lack of spring bars. But in many cases it is lack of weight distribution; another way to get a soft ride is not use a w.d hitch at all. Or use an Andersen hitch which provides only limited weight distribution. Great until you have to suddenly steer around an obstacle in the road on rain or ice with a tow vehicle that has a lightened steering axle.

This would be best refuted with actual weight posting showing not "good enough for me", but full weight distribution. Rather the the buffoonery that follows those who question the product.

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Ignore them at your own peril.

Not only has Andersen warned that it is not compatible with the Airstream Atwood coupler (can wear and disconnect the trailer), a recent poster also had the latch wear and uncouple on a Marvel coupler. He got rid of his Andersen as others have done, including me.

The hitch is only effective for complete weight distribution with a very light tongue weight, and even that is questionable.

Those who are experiencing a soft ride ought to question why. Part of it is the lack of spring bars. But in many cases it is lack of weight distribution; another way to get a soft ride is not use a w.d hitch at all. Or use an Andersen hitch which provides only limited weight distribution. Great until you have to suddenly steer around an obstacle in the road on rain or ice with a tow vehicle that has a lightened steering axle.

This would be best refuted with actual weight posting showing not "good enough for me", but full weight distribution. Rather the the buffoonery that follows those who question the product.

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Doug, have you actually had any of the problems with the Andersen WD system that you keep saying others have experienced?
And don’t forget to add to your list of issues that the paint might chip and lead to terminal failure of the entire system by complete rust thru at the worst possible moment.
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It seems that there are more and more of us who like our Andersen and that several people have a problem with that. The front of my truck has been brought down to the unloaded height with Andersen hitch and this makes me happy along with the improved ride and sway controle and if this makes me a buffoon in your opinion than so be it.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:38 PM   #2091
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But you have to admit . . . . entertainment value . . . ..
Yes Michael, I do find a great deal of this very entertaining. Well past 2000 posts and on the way to the next benchmark.

So let's see some new posters to keep this thread rev'd up.

By the way, thanks Howie for kicking this off!
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Huh???

Detractors? What detractors???
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As a new member and a senior citizen with limited income I have read this thread through. At 71 I find it is a problem using my old wd hitch with dual cam sway controls. With medical problems it wears me out just hooking up. My airstream is a 72 safari 23 foot. We have not used it much in the past few years. Now I find a hitch that I can use that does not tax my energy. Seems like every forum I am on there are a few members with a lot to say. And they keep saying it over and over. I am very happy with my new hitch. My marvel coupler is in good shape. If it wears out I will weld on a new one. I have traveled the same roads for over 30 years. Some of them bouncy. The ride now is very smooth. I am happy with the Anderson. If a new member does not buy it because of a few then they will never know. I am a person that would like to see photos of all these problems. Seems like we all have digital cameras now. If trailer comes unhooked take a pix. If coupler is worn out. Take a pix. The few detractors have had their say and should just sit back and laugh when we have a problem and say I told you so, if that happens. Otherwise it is time for them to move on to another thread. Thanks for all the great information on this forum that is useful.
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Let's see . . ignore the weight-distribution requirement in favor of what winds up as no more than an expensive but low-performing anti-sway device. Glad you all are happy with your warm fuzzy feelings, but too bad that numbers are the thing that counts. Keep it slow, fellas, real slow.

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Let's see . . ignore the weight-distribution requirement in favor of what winds up as no more than an expensive but low-performing anti-sway device. Glad you all are happy with your warm fuzzy feelings, but too bad that numbers are the thing that counts. Keep it slow, fellas, real slow.

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Slow Mover. Have you ever used one?
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Slow Mover may not have used an Andersen, but I have, and I like it a lot....on my 17' Casita. I think it's a great hitch with the smaller lighter trailers.

However, many users on this forum have proved that it will not adequately distribute the tongue weight of the larger trailers, and when they try to force it to do it, something fails. Just look thru the thread, read about the failures, and look at their pictures.

No one wanted this thing to work more than I, well with the possible exception of those on here that keep on and keep on beating the Andersen drum. Y'all know who you are. THE biggest supporter of the Andersen told me on a phone call when I asked him why he didn't adjust it so it transferred the required weight, and go down and get a weight ticket, he said "I don't care how much it transfers, it works good as it is."

Folks, this is just living with an obvious problem, not addressing it or solving it.

The hitch is revolutionary in design and concept, and again works well with lighter trailer.
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I agree with Steve. Based on actual real world experience using the Andersen WD system I can confirm that it is an excellent and very effective WD system to use on a light weight Airsteam trailer. What he and a couple of other chose to ignore are the many reports from very happy users with larger and heavier trailers. Perceptions get clouded and tend to lead to a selective view of the facts as others see them.
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Wondering the cost of the added weight of the other heavy hitches to the stealth lightness of the ", AH", Andersen Hitch on gas. What about medical issues attributed to the heaviness of hitching/unhitches those monster heavy hitches? What about the constant weighing of those set-ups, time spent, scale tickets then of course, maintenance issues from wear due to rigidity of ride. Numbers folks please calculate?
Perhaps when safety is concerned, expense is not an issue, OK I get it, the more expense the safer it is , is that right?
My vintage one can go on now better than the previous 40yrs w/ the "AH".
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Let's see . . ignore the weight-distribution requirement in favor of what winds up as no more than an expensive but low-performing anti-sway device. Glad you all are happy with your warm fuzzy feelings, but too bad that numbers are the thing that counts. Keep it slow, fellas, real slow.

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You still ignoring your 100 lbs. I don't think I ever saw your weight tickets where you fixed it.
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