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03-14-2006, 03:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Eagle River
, Alaska
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 251
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Reese WD & dual cam chain setup
Ok, I bought the Reese WD hitch & dual cam sway setup, glad I did. Thanks for the help sorting it out. It mounted fine.
Which link in the chain should be used?
Does it change depending on tow vehicle, AS weight , which link makes TV level, etc?
Instructions simply state: Pull chain vertical and place link on hook of snap up bracket.
Thanks, Safari64
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03-14-2006, 03:05 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 166
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I have the same Reese hitch, love it. I use the 5th or 6th link on the chain. The more links the more weight you are shifting toward the front axle of the tow vehicle. I played around until both trailer and tow vehicle were perfectly aligned and level.
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03-14-2006, 03:06 PM
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gunnyusmc
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 436
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Reese WD Duel Cam
You use as many or few links as needed too get tow vehicle and trailer level.
Don
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03-14-2006, 03:08 PM
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gunnyusmc
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 436
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Reese WD Duel Cam
You use as many or few as needed too level trailer and tow vehicle.
Adjust by trial and error.
Don
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03-14-2006, 03:14 PM
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1977 31' Sovereign
Kalispell
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 276
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I also use the 5th link on mine. thats what the hitch company that I bought from said to use, and I also haul a 800 lb Harley Davidson in the box of the truck. truck and trailer are nice and leval, from ground to fender wheel well the front sit's 1" lower than the rear when in the 5th link.
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03-14-2006, 03:15 PM
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Remember Burma Shave!
2006 19' Safari
2000 25' Safari
1985 25' Sovereign
Fort Myers
, SW.Florida
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 510
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Is that Walter, asking?
Try THIS link. It has good intercourse.
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03-14-2006, 05:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 30' Excella
Waddell
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 313
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Hitch Adjustment
It's a bit more complex than just getting the rig level. With regards to the Dual-Cam I think Reese assumes that your basic hitch is adjusted correctly BEFORE you install the Dual-Cam unit.
If you look on my photo page you'll see a photo of a correctly adjusted Reese HP Trunnion hitch with a Dual-Cam.
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Waddell, AZ
1999 19' Bambi (SOLD)
1997 30' Excella (SOLD)
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03-14-2006, 05:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Norm!!
What are you saying??? Intrasectionalitypersonalizingwha?
Anyway... Safari 64, assuming you have the top of the hitch ball adjusted to the height specified for your trailer (do you have the manual..?), post a photo of your TV & trailer from the side on this thread with about 4 or 5 links engaged. Then PM Jack Canavera and ask him to comment. Capiche?
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03-14-2006, 06:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 31' Land Yacht
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 497
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I recommend that you follow the reese instructions for setting ball height, head angle and dual cam link location. The complete instructions can be downloaded from the reese site, www.reeseprod.com
Be sure to measure accurately and you should have no problems. Don't depend on Airstream's dimension for ball height. Get the trailer level and measure it yourself. Airstream's dimension was almost two (2) inches off on my 2002 Safari!
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03-14-2006, 07:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Good one Jim -- Also... without the trailer hitched, measure to the top of the wheel well sheet metal over front & back tires on your tow vehicle. When WD is properly distributing weight to the front wheels, the TV should settle relatively evenly after the trailer is hitched & WD is engaged. For instance if it is 27"at front and 29" at the back to the measure point before hitch & WD is engaged, and then is 25.5" and 27.5" front and back after -- you'd be balancing this out properly. Am I making this clear?
My GMC manual maybe explains that better. Ask back at this thread and I'll run grab it and explain it in their terms too if you need.
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03-14-2006, 08:22 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,718
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Reese WD & dual cam chain setup
Greetings Safari64!
Something else that comes into play with the Reese Dual Cam setup is selection of the proper weight distribution bar rating, particularly if your tow vehicle is has heavy duty suspension. When I tow my '78 Minuet (3,200 pounds maximum Gross Weight/550 pounds gross hitch weight) with the K2500 Suburban, I utilize a pair of 350 pound weight distribution bars from my days with a special light-weight Reese setup from the 1980s -- without these lighter bars, it was virtually impossible to get enough tension on the Dual Cam system for it to operate properly (I have 600 pound weight distribution bars that I utilize when towing with the Cadillac). I would echo the suggestions to utilize the Reese setup instructions when adjusting the tension on the weight distribution bars.
I am sure that you will enjoy your Dual Cam System once it is completely adjusted!
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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03-14-2006, 08:28 PM
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1977 31' Sovereign
Kalispell
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 276
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Here check this site out read thru it and you will understand how to set it up,
http://site.drawtite.com/WeightDistr...wayControl.pdf
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03-14-2006, 10:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Eagle River
, Alaska
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 251
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Manual?? What manual?
Thanks for the help.
Yes Norm it's Walter, confused again. But getting ready to roll if spring ever arrives. You guys helped me sort it out, again.
Manual?? What manual? No really, what is proper height for trailer tongue for 64 Safari? “Level” or an actual measurement?
I downloaded (and read) the Reese/Drawtite instructions. I leveled the trailer and measured to top of ball socket. It all makes sense now. Chain link #5. TV front/rear within ¼”.
I was having a hard time leveling out trailer and TV, but duh, the Safari is sitting on 3 inches solid ice and TV isn't, its on 1.5” packed snow. I’ll remeasure/tighten everything on solid/ flat before hitting highways.
Perhaps I should try reading the instructions before I fly the Cessna again, eh?
If only the 9 grizzly bears we GPS collared this year came with instructions! Or a forum!!
What do you use to lube trunnions/hitch ball? or do you?
Thanks for the help,
Walter
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03-14-2006, 11:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1968 28' Ambassador
Butte
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driftwood
Try THIS link. It has good intercourse.
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HUH !?!?
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03-14-2006, 11:35 PM
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1977 31' Sovereign
Kalispell
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 276
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Yes I grease the ball with regular grease from my grease gun.. Then I wipe off after I unhook otherwise I forget about the grease and it makes for a mess on my pants or someone elses.
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03-14-2006, 11:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Eagle River
, Alaska
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 251
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Thanks, Whats used to lube trunnion (oil?) and cam?
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03-15-2006, 06:12 AM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
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If you are willing to spend the $6, Reese makes a recommended hitch ball lube in a small squeeze bottle that I just carry on the tongue of my trailer. It's not as messy as a grease gun and is really handy. Regarding the trunnion bar/cam lube... they work by friction. You don't want to lube them. If the noise is bad, Reese recommends using a very slight amount of vaseline to quiet them, but never use grease. Grease reduces friction and your sway system fails to function without it!
Roger
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03-15-2006, 06:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 31' Land Yacht
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari64
Manual?? What manual? No really, what is proper height for trailer tongue for 64 Safari? “Level” or an actual measurement?
I downloaded (and read) the Reese/Drawtite instructions. I leveled the trailer and measured to top of ball socket. It all makes sense now. Chain link #5. TV front/rear within ¼”.
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Use the actual measurement from coupler to ground with the trailer on a flat surface. Level it by making the distance from frame to ground the same front and rear. Then set your ball height accordingly. The information from Airstream on ball height should NOT be used as the many things about each trailer that change (loading, axle droop, tire size, etc) make this dimension useless for proper setup.
Sounds like you have it set up better than 95% of the people out there. Once you know how it really should be, it is amazing how many poorly setup rigs you see.
I got new, galvanized, chain just the correct length so I don't have to count links. Just hook in the top link.
Reese has ball lube that doesn't run. A little dab will do you. I use it on the trunions too. The thing that you don't want to do is overlube the ball so that the lube goes down to the base of the ball. If it does, it can work it's way into the threads and cause the nut to loosen!
Good Job!
Jim
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03-15-2006, 06:22 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 31' Land Yacht
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 497
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I agree, don't lube the cam surface with anythiing but a touch of vaseline if the noise gets too bad. I do, however, lube lighty where the spring bar meets the hitch head to prevent wear of the hitch head.
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03-15-2006, 06:54 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari64
...........If only the 9 grizzly bears we GPS collared this year came with instructions! .............
Walter
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