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08-01-2009, 01:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
Fresno/Clovis
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Reese Dual Cam Sway Control for round/trunnion hitches
I would like to use the reese dual cam 26000 for my round bar Eaz-Lift. Anyone else using this dual cam on their round bar or trunnion systems? I would like to hear about them, good or bad.
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08-01-2009, 02:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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If the ends of the bars are set to accept the cams there should not be a problem. If they are just straight it would be a waste of effort since it is the pressure to lift the bars off the cams that is what reduces sway.
Now that said there is an inherent problem with the newer Straight Line Sway Control Arms. They tend to strike the bars while in a tight turn, most common while back up. Note the material I had to grind off the yoke to prevent this.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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08-01-2009, 02:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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Hope the picture shows up this time
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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08-01-2009, 02:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
Fresno/Clovis
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My Eaz-Lift is a round bar, so cannot tell if there will be interference with the link until it is installed. Thanks for the heads up.
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08-01-2009, 03:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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If it is a round bar and do not have the cam saddle at the end there is no reason to install them as they will not act as a sway control.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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08-01-2009, 06:34 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
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Reese Dual Cam Sway Control for round/trunnion hitches
Greetings Roger!
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Originally Posted by rogerdodger
My Eaz-Lift is a round bar, so cannot tell if there will be interference with the link until it is installed. Thanks for the heads up.
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If your round bars have the chains mounted with two throught bolts, there is a high probability that the "classic" bolt-on saddles will work. These bolt-on saddles are available as separate components from Reese unless you purchase the "classic" Dual Cam unit that mounts with large "U"-bolts. I have seen this "classic" style Dual Cam utilized with a "round-bar" hitch, but haven't encountered anyone utilizing "round-bars" with the "High-Performance" Dual Cam.
The bolt-on saddles are the two smaller black steel componentes in the photo above.
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
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08-02-2009, 08:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
Fresno/Clovis
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Thank you for the info. I found a wbsite that sells the classic. It states:
"4-1/2" from the end of the spring bars must not exceed 1-1/2" in width or 5/8" in thickness for cam adapter to work". My spring bars are 1 3/4" at the 4-1/2 from the end, I wouild have to grind a little off the spring bar for it to fit. Should I do that, or Better to buy new spring bars with the curved ends. Thanks for the help.
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08-02-2009, 01:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerdodger
Thank you for the info. I found a wbsite that sells the classic. It states:
"4-1/2" from the end of the spring bars must not exceed 1-1/2" in width or 5/8" in thickness for cam adapter to work". My spring bars are 1 3/4" at the 4-1/2 from the end, I would have to grind a little off the spring bar for it to fit. Should I do that, or Better to buy new spring bars with the curved ends. Thanks for the help.
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Please post the site your are referring to.
You can not grind down the bars because you will drastically change the bending factor and thus the deflection within the bars, concentration the force at the point of the grinding.
As you may gather from my other posts I generally am willing to reinvent or change any thing engineered but not this one. You should consider buying a system designed for the job.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
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08-02-2009, 02:36 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
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Reese Dual Cam Sway Control for round/trunnion hitches
Greetings Roger!
Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerdodger
Thank you for the info. I found a wbsite that sells the classic. It states:
"4-1/2" from the end of the spring bars must not exceed 1-1/2" in width or 5/8" in thickness for cam adapter to work". My spring bars are 1 3/4" at the 4-1/2 from the end, I wouild have to grind a little off the spring bar for it to fit. Should I do that, or Better to buy new spring bars with the curved ends. Thanks for the help.
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In examining my spring bars, the main reason for the the thicknes limitation is the size of the "U-bolt" that attaches the rear-most portion of the cam or "saddle". It would appear that switching to a longer u-bolt should allow for use of your bars without further modification.
Good luck with your investigation!
Kevin
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08-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
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Kevin, it looks like the cam width, and u-bolt width max is 1-1/2 inches, not the length. If I can figure out how to attach the cam with larger u-bolts without them coming loose while traveling, ie larger than the cams, I would give it a try. It would have been better if the cams were wider so the supplied u-bolts would go around my bars.
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08-02-2009, 03:08 PM
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2002 25' Safari
Dewey
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The arms on my Reese would work with the setup posted earlier. My only concern would be the placement of the bracket for the cam arms. I am concerned that the propane bottles might be in the way.
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08-03-2009, 03:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Roger,
My father did just what you want to do...added the Reese anti-sway cams to an Eazy lift hitch, and he had to grind down the bars a little off each side at the ends only. He had the old style cams, the only ones available at the time, and it worked fine.
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08-03-2009, 06:17 PM
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2002 22' International CCD
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Interesting.... now you have me thinking about upgrading my friction sway control to dual cam. Didn't know it was this easy to do.
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2002 22' CCD
2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi
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08-03-2009, 08:19 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
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Reese Dual Cam Sway Control for round/trunnion hitches
Greetings Wayne!
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Originally Posted by wbrownrr
Interesting.... now you have me thinking about upgrading my friction sway control to dual cam. Didn't know it was this easy to do.
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The "classic" Dual Cam System is very easy to install and adjust -- it has to be if I can handle it as I am not typically a do-it-yourself type. I have installed and adjusted the system on both of my coaches, and it is amazingly easy if not a bit time consuming -- my biggest problem is finding a quiet stretch of road to make the final adjustment. The last time I installed the system on my Minuet, it took about 4 hours from unboxing to final adjustment.
Kevin
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08-03-2009, 10:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
Fresno/Clovis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Roger,
My father did just what you want to do...added the Reese anti-sway cams to an Eazy lift hitch, and he had to grind down the bars a little off each side at the ends only. He had the old style cams, the only ones available at the time, and it worked fine.
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Thank you steveH, I need some encouragement. It seems as though it would not effect the torsion effect much to remove a little off the edges.
How long did he use the cam on the eaz-lift? Do you know the torsion bar rating on the bars he modified ie 1200 lb, 1000lb, 800lb, 600lb etc? size of trailer etc?? Thank you,
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08-04-2009, 05:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Roger,
That was in the later 80's, and I really don't know the size of the bars, but I would guess they were the bigger ones because at the time he was towing a 35' Avion.
I also remember with the Reese dual cams he used TWO of the friction anti sway bars. He was towing with a 3/4 ton Suburban, but it was a BIG trailer, and he had a tendancy to drive too fast.
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08-04-2009, 08:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
Fresno/Clovis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
The arms on my Reese would work with the setup posted earlier. My only concern would be the placement of the bracket for the cam arms. I am concerned that the propane bottles might be in the way.
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There are several places on the brackets to place the u-bolts, avoiding the propane bottles. Also, I saw in another posting, someone suggested using a third u-bolt on each side, because the brackets have a tendency to slide on the trailer frame, changing the adjustment.
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