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Old 07-29-2003, 09:17 AM   #15
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Chuck,

Well, I do have Airlift airbags... but look at my avatar , all is perfectly leveled

The rest of the world "fact" is a FACT . WD are unknown there.

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Old 07-29-2003, 09:31 AM   #16
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Chuck,

Well, I do have Airlift airbags... but look at my avatar , all is perfectly leveled

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Hart... you are obviously pleased with the balance and handling of your truck and trailer, and I think that's great. You need to understand though that you have one of the few truck-trailer combos in the country that apparently don't require WD/sway control.

If it weren't necessary for the rest of us, believe me when I say we wouldn't be spending the time and money to use it.

I understand your contention that WD/sway control is essentially unused except in North America. I don't know why that is, but it really doesn't matter much for our purposes.

The fact is that the vast majority of us need some kind of WD and sway control to keep our towed load's weight equally distributed for handling and performance, and our rigs safely under control at highway speed. It's not a luxury, it's a necessity. Even when we have it, as I did, it may not be set up right, which leads to an unsafe towing situation. I was fortunate in that the sway episodes I've experienced have been minor, and I've been able to control the rig. Others have not been as fortunate and have crashed.

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Roger,

I refered to trailers under 23 feet, not your 34 behemoth

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I refered to trailers under 23 feet, not your 34 behemoth

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I had sway problems on a bare ball with my Astro and a '61 Bambi 16'!

The size of the trailer isn't important. The factors that ARE important are: the trailer to tow vehicle weight ratio; tow vehicle tow weight rating; tow vehicle tires; tow vehicle wheelbase; tire inflation on both trailer & tow vehicle; trailer weight; tongue weight; distance from the tongue to the axle placement; and trailer loading and balance.

If any one of these factors is out of balance, sway can become a loss of control issue. Sway control and weight distribution equipment counter the trailer's propensity to start oscillating from side to side (yaw or sway) with the application of side forces.

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Old 07-30-2003, 07:30 AM   #19
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Under 23 feet a ball is enough unless you tow with a Yugo.
The whole world (except US & CDN) has done it since trailers exist, some lighter ones are towed by light cars & the heavy ones by larger cars...but only with a ball...& thats a FACT

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Our 59 Caravanner 22ft had to be moved and at that point we were unable to locate the hitch (long story as to why). Totale max weight of the trialer should be about 4k ready to go.

We used a straing ball set up to move it and I tell you it was the most terrifying ride EVER. I will NEVER pull a trailer over 2,000 lb and 15ft of length without some sort of sway control. Our new tow rig is a 3/4 ton Suburban. It has STIFF suspension and dropping the traler on the ball drops the rear of the truck 1.5 inches and riases the front .75 inches. I have approximatly 550 lb of toung weight. I use 750lb bars and it seems just right. Front is .25 inche up and rear is .25 inches low.


I'm using a Dual cam that was a E-Bay find that came with a seto of 1k bars, Had to buy a second draw bar to work properly with my truck. I had the PO's 750lb bars that I use with the camper. I have $300 in the system. The 1k Bars work perfect with a friends car trailer I barrow on occasion.
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I refered to trailers under 23 feet, not your 34 behemoth

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Yea Roger.....don't you have a button for sway control on the monster anyway!

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Yea Roger.....don't you have a button for sway control on the monster anyway!

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No, it flies; fires phasers; carries photon torpedoes; has a hanger deck; and can do warp 9; but there's no sway control button.

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Are the sway control bars stamped with a number indicating what pound bars they might be or is there another way of identifying what their rating is.
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ARRRRRGHHHHH! It's like they're everywhere!!!!!
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ARRRRRGHHHHH! It's like they're everywhere!!!!!
Yep, Cloud... just like TRIBBLES!!!!!

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Are the sway control bars stamped with a number indicating what pound bars they might be or is there another way of identifying what their rating is.
Yes, well at least both sets of Resse bars I have. It is a code so you would probably have to contact a dealer to figure that out. Both sets of my bars also have a sticker that clearly says 750lb or 1,000. One set of bars those stickers are getting in pretty rough condition.
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Are the sway control bars stamped with a number indicating what pound bars they might be or is there another way of identifying what their rating is.
My DrawTite bars were identified with a thin plastic label that lasted a few months before peeling off. There is some code stamped into the metal at the elbow, but I have never lookat it closely.
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