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Old 11-10-2013, 10:31 PM   #43
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Frame bracket DID slip so it was not "accompanied by a lack of the slipping of the "frame bracket""
Is there also a photo of that?

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Old 11-10-2013, 10:32 PM   #44
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Depending on how the loading was applied, if part of a weld failed, the yielding (bending) of the remaining intact structure could alleviate the overload and the bars could remain connected.
None of the weld failed.


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Is there also a photo of that?

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Yes, there is.


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Old 11-10-2013, 10:55 PM   #46
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Something bad happened….

I think we can say that this is an unusual situation.
Very likely one that wouldn't have happened at all had a more "experienced" person been behind the wheel.
That wasn't the case.
Whats important is that certain things need to be done to reduce the chances of it happening again.
Educating the user is number one.
Improving design is number two.
Assigning blame is not in the game.

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Old 11-10-2013, 11:37 PM   #47
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Something bad happened….

I think we can say that this is an unusual situation.
Very likely one that wouldn't have happened at all had a more "experienced" person been behind the wheel.
That wasn't the case.
Whats important is that certain things need to be done to reduce the chances of it happening again.
Educating the user is number one.
Improving design is number two.
Assigning blame is not in the game.

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Old 11-11-2013, 05:12 AM   #48
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Huh? I agree with Doug, I think. Nothing points to design flaw here, just operator error. Nothing against Annie but when she first posted she admitted she was a newbie to all of this. Newbies make more mistakes but we do learn from them. I, for one, now know to be more careful about backing at an excessive angle. I can still remember when I hit a gas pump guard rail with my boat trailer; the only design flaw there was me.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:33 AM   #49
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Wink What I if said I'm confused....

OK....forget about the stinger configuration.

Owners responsibility to learn.

Sellers to teach.

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Old 11-11-2013, 06:40 AM   #50
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Bob - Amen to that. Been towing things for 40 years. First time out with the trailer I caught the bumper on a gas pump island protector. Got out, got duct tape and went home embarrassed. I assume in this situation the buyer was setup or "trained" by the vendor. More than likely nothing more than a quick run trough of systems. When I purchased my boat, if I hadn't known to ask the vendor to set up the trailer so tongue weight was correct it would not have been done, and I would have gone blithely on my way. Pillorying the manufacturer for this without understanding what happened at the dealership is wrong.
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Another non-engineer here throwing in comments that are essentially out of my depth, but here goes anyway. I'm thinking that during the application of force required to bend a solid piece of 2" steel, any number of other parts or attachments points saw stresses that were likely beyond, maybe far beyond design limits. If it were mine, I would do and/or have done a "very thorough" inspection of this entire situation.
Yikes.... I can't imagine the force required to do that damage.
Sorry to hear of your troubles AnneMarie. Very open and honest of you to post this so that others can learn.
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Annie,

Just curious to know, have you had the hitch receiver on your tow vehicle checked out since this incident?

I know that some OEM hitch receivers - such as the one on our GMC truck - don't seem to have a very good reputation, and with the damage you have shown us on your
PP hitch, there must have been some unusually high forces applied to your tow vehicle's hitch receiver.




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Old 11-11-2013, 08:26 AM   #53
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Myself....I'd be seeking a full refund on the faulty hitch.
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Annie,

Just curious to know, have you had the hitch receiver on your tow vehicle checked out since this incident?

I know that some OEM hitch receivers - such as the one on our GMC truck - don't seem to have a very good reputation, and with the damage you have shown us on your
PP hitch, there must have been some unusually high forces applied to your tow vehicle's hitch receiver.




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I wholeheartedly agree. Some models of GM vehicles, in particular, are known for their junky receivers. I experienced broken welds on the receivers on both my 2004 and 2005 Suburbans. These broken welds occurred without any extreme forces.

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I wholeheartedly agree. Some models of GM vehicles, in particular, are known for their junky receivers. I experienced broken welds on the receivers on both my 2004 and 2005 Suburbans. These broken welds occurred without any extreme forces.

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I can't say personally had any bad experience with the hitches on a GMC Safari AWD van and two GMC trucks that we have owned, but have read of a lot of other folks that have!

Because of that, I try to remember to check the hitch welds on every trip we make, and would change to an aftermarket hitch if/when I ever see signs of developing problems.

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How from the stated facts and photos here do some feel it warranted to categorize as "faulty"?

It seems highly important to establish if something is faulty - but just as important to determine if human error and the way the error occurred
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