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Old 06-27-2013, 06:40 AM   #29
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It has been my understanding that the spring bars are imported and that a contract manufacturer in the U.S. makes most of the steel parts. I don't know where the final assembly and packaging takes place.
I think it is a combination of all your statements. I believe there are only a few spring bar mfrs. I know HAHA used several different suppliers. I believe Sean outsources some of his pieces and makes some....but through conversation with him while building up the PP adjustable stinger designed for HA, It was apparent to me that assembly and some of the manufacturing was there in Grand Blanc, MI. It was shipped from there as well.


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Old 06-27-2013, 04:05 PM   #30
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Recieved mine yesterday...

I recieved my 3P yesterday. I have a Hensley laying on the floor beside it and I'll have to admit, ProPride/Sean and associates sure did alot to clean up the design. I design and manufacture oilfield equipment on a relatively large this isn't my first rodeo.

Most notably, I like the "funnel" on the PP and the steeper angle of the mating part on the stinger. It is a machined part and not some welded-up irregular wedge. The "funnel box" is constructed more robust but with the steeper angle on the stinger, it isn't as necessary to be as beefed even better. Anthing thing that is at a 20 degree angle or less is commonly refered to as a self-locking taper. If the HAHA components had been machined in a uniform fashion with a rigid funnel, I would suspect a lot of stingers would "stick" in the hitch more often. I like the "disc" system of the PP much better on the torsion bars as opposed to the gimpy spring-loaded "dog-point" used on the Hensley. The yoke underneath the A-frame is head and shoulder above the Hensley approach. The PP 3P is what the Hensley should have evolved into....don't know the reasons why it didn't nor care. I'm just glad a fresher alternative is available. To me, I got alot for my money in the way of fabricated parts from PP, not to mention technology/experience. I hope to have the installation complete tonight as I'm just piddling along analyzing every bit and piece. As a manufacturer, I try not to give out too many blue ribbons but I like what I've seen so far and even the installation procedure is nice.

As an owner of two Hensleys, I am not bashing the HAs as they were plowing new ground in their day and paved the way. PP is/was at a distinct advantage having the understanding of the pros & cons of the HAHA and starting with a clean slate. Its hard for any existing company to just up and completely change their product line, but starting fresh with knowledge in a new business, it only stand to reason that there would be considerable improvements....and there are.

I have been in contact with "Terry" at HA and without question (no offense intended), they obviously don't have much engineering depth on staff at this time. I was inquiring about an extended drop hitch bar for my new Suburban 2500 (top of the reciever box 25.5") to use with my HA wouldn't believe some of his suggestions on dealing with the lower drop (8" is their max...I need 12")....said they did some testing on longer and adjustable hitch bars and they broke in half....I called him out on it as BS and had him stuttering. There are more forces on the TV receiver but nothing going on there to break a 2x2 hitch bar...that's just crazy to even to suggest. I wonder how many people he tells that to that don't have experience fabricating out of metal and believe it. It was like he was reading this mess of a spill off of cue cards. Then he suggested cutting off and replacing the coupler on the A-frame with a taller variety or "flipping the shackles" on the trailer axles to raise the trailer up 6". He was rolling out this rehearsed "speech" as if it were backed with knowledge but couldn't answer any specific technical questions I asked.

At the end of the day, every company needs at least one person on-board that knows what the hell is going on. I can't believe Hensley was always run this way...and wonder how much longer they will. He is aware I have HA that I probably won't use and said that they would give me $500 for it and send me some shipping boxes....I'd throw it off the creek bridge first.

I'm going to deal with Terry on some things but what he can't provide, I'll build myself. I hate to see a perfectly good company get run into the ground. I can recall a time when Hensley was the bench-mark. If you want to stay top, you've got to want to be on top.


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Old 06-27-2013, 04:36 PM   #31
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My hitch finally shipped yesterday..
Mine did too. Should be here tomorrow.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:26 PM   #32
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Most of my queries to Sean have been responded to quickly - almost instantly.

The one exception was a set of WD jack frame spacers that Sean agreed to send me; they apparently got lost in the mail twice before the third set finally reached me weeks later. At that time I had a REALLY hard time getting in touch... mobile phone, email, FaceBook, webpage, forums... nothing worked for an inordinately long time.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:53 PM   #33
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Big shout out to ProPride. I am convinced the hitch saved our rig last month when an (expletive deleted) pulled out in front of me while I was doing 60. While braking heavily, I pulled up to the middle of his car while half in the grass and half on the shoulder.....What ended as me just being angry could have easily been a rollover with a lesser hitch!

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