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Old 11-28-2008, 01:37 PM   #29
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I hope I don't scare Scotty . I have 45 yrs with loads and load transfers while in the trucking industry. ITs all relevelant . IT only takes a few bucks to do the CAT Scale experience Scotty.Then U will not be guessing with fender measurements.
U can find accurate scales almost anywhere and for a few bucks and a kind word U get the info u need. Recyclers, Scrap yards. feedmills and truckstops. U will find certified scales. Fender measurements maybe a place to start. But U have no knowledge of what wieght is accutually transfered.
Ok Off the soap box , IM OUT
I have a question. When weighing, should the tow vehicle have a full tank of gas, half tank?? Will it make a difference in your setup??
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:29 PM   #30
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Actually full everything even food and clothing,grill,charcoal, wood what ever U usually camp with, except maybe the gray and black tanks. That way U get a true gross on the whole outfit.The readings are truely realistic to what U will be towing down the highway. Having those readings some adjustment can be made.
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Old 11-29-2008, 08:47 AM   #31
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What Roger said..
When we're loaded as in post 19 I always stop at the scales, top up fuel, weigh, make any adjustments and hit the road. If I hadn't done it on that trip I wouldn't have known the coach was overweight.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:47 AM   #32
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Thanks. I will be hitching for the first time, and reading this post, and have located CAT scales. They are handy so will use them as you have.
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:32 AM   #33
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What to do?????

My advice would be to get a more appropriately rated Tow Vehicle the next time around....

Scotty Oh stated actual ratings of his Tundra:

GAWF 4000, GAWR 4150, GVW 7200, GCWR 16000, Tow cap 10100.


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What to do?....

Load truck no trailer:
Front axle 3620 rear axle 3160, total 6780.
7200GVW less 6780 lbs Actual weight leaves only 420 lbs for trailer tongue, extra gas, and driver???

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Truck and trailer no tension on bars:
Axle ft 3160, rear 4540, total 7700
Jack at the stop
Truck weights ft 3660, rr 3840 *total - 7500*
Your actual recorded weights indicate that you have your Tundra over loaded by 500 and 300 lbs, respectively, when you did your weigh-ins....

Toyota can beat their chests about the Tundra as much as they want, the bottom line is that the actual ratings are below what is required to tow much of the Airstream line.
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Old 11-29-2008, 07:19 PM   #34
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Keep working with what you have to get it as close as possible to "ideal" (still a matter of debate, but basics are agreed on [I think]). I've had to work with mine and I am still not seeing what I "want" to see. I recommend these two threads to you:

The first is the sticky at the top of this sub-forum:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...sis-19236.html

The second is another of (the missing) 2Air's:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...-in-17984.html

Short of changing the TV you'll want to get as close as you can to ideal. The proper numbers -- lot's of 'em -- give others the chance to be that second set of eyes (or brain) for you.

Be sure to move off and back around onto the scale with any changes you make.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:30 PM   #35
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In general I agree with the basic guidelines that typically get posted here and on other sites (although we tend to be slightly more of a passionate group) regarding weight 'disturbing' hitches...
But they were designed well before some of todays application specific vehicles...
For example, a 3/4 ton diesel is waaaay nose heavy...
The goal could be stated that we need to keep from removing so much weight from the front that the front end lifts and the steering geometry is affected...

I try to keep the nose weight the same when loaded as unloaded, I still end up with more than 50% vehicle weight on the nose.

It's easy to use the posted guides for W/D and exceed my front axle gross weight while having 1/2 ton extra capacity on the rear axle...

Now if I ever get a '77 LTD wagon, I'll listen to the archives...
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Check out the Tundra hitch and it is very substancial, much like the one you show you added.
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Thank Ron, It could be that I steped off the scale at one of the readings. That would make up 240.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:48 AM   #38
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Hi Rodger, Thanks for the help. I use the scale that ODOT has set up for the use of truckers all around Oregon. They seem quite accurate as they all weights are the same. I don't mind paying a couple of bucks if needed but why pay for what is free.
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Bob, My jacks are set clear to the max, can't bring them up anymore.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:03 AM   #40
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Your not scaring me. I am just soaking this all up and when ready, will squeeze out the correct answer to this little problem. As set up now I is doing great just want to improve if I can.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:22 AM   #41
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Hi Dennis, I really think it is a redistubution of weight. No reason I don't move stuff from the truck to the trailer, plenty of room and weight limits there. Don't you think. I don't need to everything all the time. Don't need the skiis in the summer, tandem bike in the winter, winter clothes in summer. Pack light. my little Weber Smokey Joe and charcoal can't weight more than 8 lbs. Sure the Honda 2000 is 50 but we can handle that. And if worse gets to worse I can give up my Tempurpedic Mattress that must add 200 to 300 lbs to the tongue.
This Tundra is all I ever expected and could ask for, it is going to do me just fine.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:58 PM   #42
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Hi Dennis, Thanks for the input but where do you get 500 lbs overweight? I understand the 300 but where do you get the 500, other than the weight without distribution. If I find in necessary I will change out the Tempurpedic mattress for someting lighter like a Sleep Number. I spend a lot of time in the rig and good sleep is important.

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