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Old 10-26-2015, 02:46 PM   #1
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Newbie Trailer Jack question(s)

My spousal unit and I are retrieving her new toy in a couple days. We will be towing it home, about 400 miles (fingers crossed). When we arrive, we intend to put it at the top of our driveway, at least for the time being. We can tow it up, but can't back it into the planned parking spot. We'll need to unhook and then maneuver the beast into place somehow.

I've found something called a "Trailer Valet" that gets generally good reviews and wondered if any Streamers have any experience with it or any similar wheeled trailer jack that can be used to shoehorn the 22 foot, '68 Safari into a tight spot. It's a shade over $500 so I'm not excited about purchasing it if it can't do the job.

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Old 10-26-2015, 03:04 PM   #2
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No personal experience but if you search the forum I think you will find others have used these with success.
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Old 10-26-2015, 03:42 PM   #3
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I've moved boats like this, and I'd stress safety if it's on a slope. Don't try it if the slope is too big, and get two buddies to chock the wheels on either side in case it gets a mind of it's own. They can also help look out and guide it in - the view from the tow bar is useless.

If it's a level site it's a breeze.
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Old 10-26-2015, 04:06 PM   #4
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I assume you are talking about this?

https://www.trailervalet.com

For better feedback, perhaps you could give a few details about the length and slope of your driveway, and the especially the slope of your proposed parking spot (both front to back and L/R).

A few questions come to mind. Why can't you back in from the street? Once you pull up the driveway, is there room to park the trailer, and still get the tow vehicle out? If so, why not hire someone with a fork lift (with hitch ball attached) to shuffle the trailer?

Unless the parking spot is almost perfectly level, you might be playing with fire here IMO, but caution prevails . . .

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Old 10-26-2015, 04:24 PM   #5
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I agree, it is unlikely you can keep it from rolling downhill with that thing when the chocks are out.

If you have a truck, you could weld a hitch receiver on the front frame. Much more maneuverability for parking the trailer, and you can see what's going on.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:37 PM   #6
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Thanks for the responses so far. Enlightening.

The driveway is about 35 yards, top to bottom. It's steep (maybe 25 degrees) for the bottom 25 yards, but the top 10 (or so) are level and there's a parking area to the left of the top that is about 26 feet wide - the twenty-two footer will barely fit. My goal is to shoehorn it in there, where it will be invisible from the street.

If I pull up as far as I can, I think the AS axle will be on pretty level ground. Ideally, I would then just move it laterally and forward some 10 yards into place and back the truck out. That's what I want to use the Trailervalet for.

I understand the need to chock the wheels "aggressively" before unhooking.

An expert might (and I stress "might") be able to back up the drive and into place but I have no pretensions of being able to do that. I'm pretty good, but that would be unbelievably difficult. Also, my tow vehicle is fairly marginal (Honda Ridgeline) to begin with. It might strain mightily, even in reverse, to get up the first 25 yards.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:44 PM   #7
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Thanks, Jay, for the details and wise forbearance on backing it up the hill on your own. Are you sure about 25 degrees? That seems very extreme IMO.

If you must have the trailer at that location, personally I would consider hiring a skilled tow truck to back it up the hill for you. In the long run, the cost of doing this once in a while will be a very minor expense relative to your overall investment.

Be sure to get it level fore and aft and L/R so you can use the fridge when you want, in your new guest cottage!

Good luck . . .

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Old 10-26-2015, 06:02 PM   #8
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The trailer valet is excellent device. But if your TV is going to struggle on that slop, the trailer valet will too.
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:24 PM   #9
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Thanks again.

You're probably right, Peter. 25 Degrees is probably a bit much but it's at least 15. You may be right about having it backed in by a pro.

Gsmblue, I'm pretty certain if I pull the TV all the way to the top (the driveway ends and then the yard, steep uphill, begins), the AS axle and wheels will have cleared the uphill part of the drive and be on level ground. I then intend to chock the wheels on the AS, unhook, pull the truck onto the grass (out of the way) and then use the Trailer Valet to wrangle the AS into place. At least, that's the plan.

BTW, I saw in your post in a different string that you have two Trailer Valets on your AS. Why two?

Lastly, does anybody know if I can buy a Valet in any retail establishments? Northern Tool? Harbor Freight?
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Etrailer has them for $340.00. They claim to have brakes but I would not think they would hold much back.


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Splyb, the tongue weight meant I had to use 2. I tried one but it smooshed the tires on the valet. The XL version was not available a year ago...

I am, actually looking to sell both as I don't use them anymore..
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Thanks again.

You're probably right, Peter. 25 Degrees is probably a bit much but it's at least 15. You may be right about having it backed in by a pro.

Gsmblue, I'm pretty certain if I pull the TV all the way to the top (the driveway ends and then the yard, steep uphill, begins), the AS axle and wheels will have cleared the uphill part of the drive and be on level ground. I then intend to chock the wheels on the AS, unhook, pull the truck onto the grass (out of the way) and then use the Trailer Valet to wrangle the AS into place. At least, that's the plan.
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Sorry to butt in again, but I feel the need to caution you, Jay, that -- if there is ANY slope to the driveway where you have just parked the trailer, once you try to move it away from the firm resistance of the wheel chocks, the forces of gravity plus the two separate momentums of the moving Valet and trailer (even if small) may quickly and unpredictably overwhelm your ability to control the Trailer Valet's path.

And once this imbalance of forces starts, it could accelerate very very quickly . . . very . . .

If the parking area is absolutely level you should be OK once the chocks disappear as your safety net . . .

Picture the crucial slope to consider being right where the Trailer Valet's wheels are -- THIS is where things could get out of hand in my opinion, but of course the trailer would follow an out-of-control Valet . . .

PS -- OT -- there has to be some movie about such a valet? "Being There" with Peter Sellers comes to mind, at least on the "valet" part -- and I guess the "out-of-control" part as well albeit in an odd-ball way!

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Keep the 'break away' cable close at hand.. should the AS get away from you, pull the cable so the brakes engage!!! (if the battery is good in the AS)
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