Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-28-2013, 07:02 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
wiredforless's Avatar
 
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Carefree , Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 12
New to forum and a new Airstream owner!

After thinking about it for years, we found a deal on a 2010 Airstream Flying Cloud 25FB that we could not pass up. Pristine and it has a Hensley hitch.

Funny thing is that we don't even have a tow vehicle yet (trailer gets delivered to our driveway tomorrow)! Have been thinking about an F150 EcoBoost but now uncertain after reading the threads. Any advice or suggestions about a TV would be appreciated.

But my actual question is about the Hensley. While it wasn't the reason I bought the trailer, I've since learned more about it and discovered that was a great accessory to be included!

So here is the dumb question (please go easy on me...I am new . The Hensley is a very, very good anti-sway device. But it sounds like I may also need a leveling device. Can / does the Hensley do that as well? Or do I / can I add that along with the Hensley?

I know the forum will set me straight. Thanks in advance for your input!
__________________

__________________
wiredforless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 07:25 PM   #2
Vintage Kin
 
slowmover's Avatar
 
Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,583
Images: 1
The H/A hitch is both weight-distributing and anti-sway. There are threads around here on how to set up a hitch properly. The main one of interest to you will have the term HAHA in the title (search). Detailed in every respect.

That frees up the money for disc brakes on the trailer. The combo will then be state-of-the-art.

The TT was the important choice. The TV not so much as one of that size can be towed by a variety of vehicles. A HONDA Odyssey, for instance. Take the time to read over at the website (and posts here) of Andrew Thomson of CAN AM RV (London, ON) for the authoritative view of alternatives. A pickup has about the worst road performance of any potential TV, so be sure you are clear about how many nights aboard your new TT annually, and an idea of how many miles.

The "best" TV is first suited to solo miles, one which can also tow the TT. That's the order to follow.


And, welcome!

.
__________________

__________________
1990 35' Silver Streak Sterling; 9k GVWR.
2004 DODGE Cummins 305/555; 6-manual; 9k GVWR.
Hensley Arrow. 9-cpm solo, 15-cpm towing
Sold: Silver Streak Model 3411
slowmover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 07:50 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
eljay's Avatar
 
1968 24' Tradewind
Rural, blink and you'll miss it , Missouri
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 692
Images: 19
Welcome to the forums!
__________________
Not knowing enough to be afraid... (I know more than I did, but I did it anyway!)

Eljay

1968 Tradewind Double.
eljay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:36 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
Jim Clark's Avatar
 
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans , Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
Images: 6
Opinions on tow vehicle are like noses everyone has one, and most are valid. I towed a 25 Safari with a EcoBoost and a Hensely and had no issues. I just traded the Safari for a 28 International Serenity which we pickup tomorrow. I had the Hensely moved to the new trailer and plan to tow with the EcoBoost.
__________________
Jim N5TJZ Air# 174
2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
Jim Clark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 08:49 PM   #5
New Member
 
2012 27' Flying Cloud
Dallas , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2
I pull my flying Cloud with a f-150 super cab Ecoboost and it has more than enough capacity. I don't have a Hensley but a more economical hitch...Eazy something. I am amazed the torque on the loaded hitch.
__________________
rhawkins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 09:33 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
switz's Avatar

 
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction , Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,799
Images: 8
With a front bedroom model, the the only accessible from outside storage is under the bed. That is where typically one finds the power cords, fresh water hoses, wheel chocks etc. That weight gets added to the propane in the tanks and the spare wheel with tire.

The factory literature stated my model would have a 833 pound tongue weight. The hydraulic scale I purchased said it was 1,175 pounds with the other accessories installed by the dealership. That weight plays out when crossing the scales with the TV & trailer.

So in my case, I needed a TV that had a true payload capacity that included the tongue weight, me and my wife and some stuff in the vehicle. I wanted to also have generator capability, so I needed a pickup to keep gasoline fumes out of the passenger area.
__________________
WBCCI Life Member 5123, AIR 70341, 4CU, WD9EMC

TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell

2014 31' Classic model 30 twin beds, 50 amp service, 900 watt solar system, Centramatics, Dill TPMS, disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
switz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 09:38 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
2008 23' Safari FB SE
Boulder , Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 510
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowmover View Post
That frees up the money for disc brakes on the trailer. The combo will then be state-of-the-art.

.
Sort of curious - what do disc brakes cost if you have dual axles?
__________________
bonginator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:33 PM   #8
2 Rivet Member
 
mike warren's Avatar
 
2010 23' International
Oregon City , Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
I would like to know more about converting to disc brakes. How much work is involved and the cost. We have a 2010 23 ft. International.
__________________
mike warren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 07:00 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
switz's Avatar

 
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction , Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,799
Images: 8
I saw the conversion kit at Jackson Center last October. As I remember, it was a very significant cost. Some folks with experience with these systems say they can add significant maintenance costs as well. Call Airstream ((877) 596-6111) extension 7413 for service to get details. I would suggest that the factory do the installation as they have done a few as contrasted to a typical local dealer with no installation experience of this system.

The disc brake system utilizes hydraulics (brake fluid) to cause the brakes actuator to squeeze on the the disk, just like in your car or truck brake system. But there is no brake pedal the driver pushes on to directly actuate hydraulic pressure on the trailer brakes. The vehicle sends an electrical signal (the same signal that would go to a drum brake system) which in turn causes a pump on the trailer to build up brake pressure on the trailer disk brakes. A "black box" is trying to determine from an increasing electric current flow how much pressure to apply , if you will, to a brake pedal in the trailer.

Both drum and disk brake systems require annual service for safety. I would want to be sure there was a relatively nearby service facility that was familiar with the Airstream disk brake system. Otherwise, the owner gets to pay for the service outfit to "learn all about it" on your trailer.

I went down that path of training the mechanics on my nickle with an aircraft and the "labor" costs can rapidly ballon out of control.
__________________
WBCCI Life Member 5123, AIR 70341, 4CU, WD9EMC

TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell

2014 31' Classic model 30 twin beds, 50 amp service, 900 watt solar system, Centramatics, Dill TPMS, disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
switz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 08:46 AM   #10
1 Rivet Member
 
wiredforless's Avatar
 
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Carefree , Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 12
Thanks to all for the wisdom and advice!

Great to hear that the Hensley does both anti-way and weight distribution (from what I hear they cost, they should). Is it something that I can "dial-in" when I get my TV or is it a good idea to get professional assistance?

I'm leaning towards a "new used" EcoBoost but they sure are hard to find in the Phoenix area! Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing! If anyone happens to hear of one available out there, please let me know.

Thanks again for both your assistance and for welcoming me to the forum.
__________________
wiredforless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 09:05 AM   #11
BAB
Rivet Master
 
BAB's Avatar

 
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro , North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,574
While there are plenty of Hensley owners, also check out the ProPride 3P -- which is an "up-engineered" and mosts would say -- improved -- pivot point hitch. I bought a new Airstream a couple of years ago and based on research I did on AirForums went with the ProPride. These Forums are absolutely INVALUABLE to a new owner. This goes for anything you might want to do to upgrade as well.
__________________
_________________
"SilverLeaf II" 2015 30' Classic
2014 RAM 2500 Laramie 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
ProPride 3P
AIR# 58452
WBCCI # 3430-Unit 21
BAB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 09:16 AM   #12
Moderator
 
DKB_SATX's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
1976 Argosy 28
Alamo Heights , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,401
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredforless View Post
~~
Great to hear that the Hensley does both anti-way and weight distribution (from what I hear they cost, they should). Is it something that I can "dial-in" when I get my TV or is it a good idea to get professional assistance?
~~
You may need to get a new "stinger" depending on the tow vehicle you choose. It's my understanding that all of the Hensley stingers are a fixed drop, so you'll need to get the tow vehicle and measure the required drop from receiver to trailer coupler. I believe that for the "registered owner" of the Hensley this swap just costs shipping fees, but those are pretty steep for a heavy chunk of metal. I also think there's a way (for a fee) to become the registered owner of the Hensley that came with your trailer and thereafter benefit from the lifetime warranty on the hitch.
__________________
David

Zero Gravitas 2017 Flying Cloud 26U | Il Progetto 1976 Argosy 28 Center Bath | WBCCI# 15566

He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. Sir Winston Churchill
DKB_SATX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 10:26 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
switz's Avatar

 
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction , Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,799
Images: 8
My original Hensley straight stinger was modified for the Mercedes (cut shorter, locking pin hole drilled in new location and slightly bent). I needed a 2" drop for the new TV. The replacement Hensley stinger was $202 plus $50 in shipping costs (the box shipping weight was 45 pounds). The new stinger would be eligible for a free swap plus shipping in both directions as it will not be modified with this installation.
__________________
WBCCI Life Member 5123, AIR 70341, 4CU, WD9EMC

TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell

2014 31' Classic model 30 twin beds, 50 amp service, 900 watt solar system, Centramatics, Dill TPMS, disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
switz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 11:15 AM   #14
Rivet Master
 
Road Ruler's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines , South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,364
Images: 39
Wired.... what vehicle do you currently own?
__________________

__________________
Airstreams..... The best towing trailers on the planet!
Road Ruler is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.