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Old 12-07-2015, 11:41 AM   #1
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Question Need opinions with tow setup 20ft Safari - Airsafe w/ Ext Cab Silverado 1/2 ton PICS

Hello everyone!

New to the AS scene. Finally purchased a 20ft 1967 single axle safari and plan on a full resto but that will be another thread. I need help with a sway control or weight dist. setup. Seems like there are 15,000 different options...

Here is what I have:
  • 2005 Silverado 1/2 Ton Extended Cab V8
  • I installed an AirLift rear airbag setup over the leaf springs on the truck for load leveling -
  • AirSafe Class 3/4 Receiver w provision for small ball friction sway setup

The trailer has welded brackets on the A frame for some sort of sway or WD setup that I don't have. They look very old maybe even original. Would I be ok with just a friction sway setup or would a WD setup be advisable or both. Heck I don't know and I refuse to spend money twice. So I would like to do it right from the start. I will be towing it soon about 1200 miles so let me know what you guys think. Here are some pictures. I know everyone here probably knows what I am talking about but people love photos on a forum





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Old 12-07-2015, 01:06 PM   #2
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I tow an Airstream almost exactly like yours behind a Dodge Ram 1500 with a Reese Dual Cam sway control. It's the sweetest rig I've ever pulled. Have to be careful not to forget it's there. I inherited the sway control from the PO, but was completely sold on it by the time I got the trailer home (300 miles in a nasty crosswind).
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Old 12-07-2015, 01:32 PM   #3
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If weight distribution is a consideration I think the AirSafe is going to be a real problem. I think there will be a problem transferring load through that hitch head, there is no way to attach bars.

If your tongue weight is not that heavy you might use the AirSafe and a friction plate type anti sway device. But I don't think you are going to be happy with it towing a single axle trailer. Any bounce while towing may result it the AirSafe hitting the top or bottom limits of the hitch and thus a real bang.

Measure the height of the front fender of the TV before and after hitching. If the fender does not go up by more than 1/2 in. and effect the steering geometry you could try it.
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Old 12-07-2015, 01:48 PM   #4
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Welcome to the forum. I am nearby in the Clear Lake, TX area. I tow a 1955 22 ft Flying Cloud with a Ford F150 on the ball alone. Tongue weight is only about 300 lbs (more would be nice) and aside from heavy crosswinds I have had no trouble with this setup.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:24 PM   #5
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Welcome to the forum. I am nearby in the Clear Lake, TX area. I tow a 1955 22 ft Flying Cloud with a Ford F150 on the ball alone. Tongue weight is only about 300 lbs (more would be nice) and aside from heavy crosswinds I have had no trouble with this setup.
So I should try this trip with the Airsafe alone and see how it goes? I would hate to have the trip be a nightmare.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:26 PM   #6
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I tow an Airstream almost exactly like yours behind a Dodge Ram 1500 with a Reese Dual Cam sway control. It's the sweetest rig I've ever pulled. Have to be careful not to forget it's there. I inherited the sway control from the PO, but was completely sold on it by the time I got the trailer home (300 miles in a nasty crosswind).
Do you have the Airsafe receiver ball also?
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:45 PM   #7
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So I should try this trip with the Airsafe alone and see how it goes? I would hate to have the trip be a nightmare.
You are dealing with 2 completely different issues here.
WD, and it is cot clear that you will need that with this light a trailer.
Sway Control, and you will need to address that with a single axle trailer.

You should install a plate type anti sway device between the AirSafe, that small arm next to the ball, and the trailer tongue. Then try your test run.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:38 PM   #8
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I have a pickup like yours and pull a 30' Classic with it "one the ball" with no problem. I am sure all you need is a ball. Get a "reciver" that leaves the from end of your trailer just a little lower than the back. This will keep you from "draging" the back of your trailer when you go threw a ditch. Good Luck
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:59 PM   #9
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Towing with an air hitch

We had an air hitch, tow a 25' Safari, with a 2015 Silverado 1500, the ball for the air hitch was 19" from the back bumper, way to far. Tows much better with a Reese hitch.
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:05 AM   #10
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I think the above is right about the Reese hitch. Get the ball closer to the TV which will give the trailer less "leverage" on your TV. Also make it back up easier. The only problem with this is if you are backing up and allow the trailer to "get away" (turn too sharp) you trailer will come in contact with your TV sooner.

Please send us pictures once you have your trailer fixed to your satisfaction. You should have a lot of fun fixing it up. I have seen some and they are so "cool".
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Do you have the Airsafe receiver ball also?

No. Mine is a Reese with the trunnion fittings to receive the weight distribution bars.
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:29 PM   #12
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We had an air hitch, tow a 25' Safari, with a 2015 Silverado 1500, the ball for the air hitch was 19" from the back bumper, way to far. Tows much better with a Reese hitch.
The AirSafe that I have is only 6" longer than a standard receiver with ball. See the photo below. Which model air hitch were you using?

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Please send us pictures once you have your trailer fixed to your satisfaction. You should have a lot of fun fixing it up. I have seen some and they are so "cool".
I am super excited to get some time to start tearing it apart. I will be starting a new thread with the rebuild process. I just went and picked up my axle yesterday. So far the only thing that I have done is remove all of the junk that was no good or I will no longer be using, blasted and powder coated the wheels, and replaced tires. I am basically getting it road ready as we have sold our house and will be traveling much much more.
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I have a pickup like yours and pull a 30' Classic with it "one the ball" with no problem. I am sure all you need is a ball. Get a "reciver" that leaves the from end of your trailer just a little lower than the back. This will keep you from "draging" the back of your trailer when you go threw a ditch. Good Luck

Yea, I have the other standard ball mount as pictured above. My truck scraped with the 2" drop ball on the standard receiver. My truck is actually dropped 2 inches in the front and 4 inches in the rear. It's done the right way with spindles and rear leafs. The rear of the truck sat a bit too low for my taste (ghetto Cali lean look) with the drop leafs and camper top so I installed an adjustable set of AIRLIFT rear air bags. The truck rides and tows great and the bags are great for load leveling etc. I would still need to flip the receiver over to basically give me a 2" lift for the ball to prevent scraping. I will be flipping the bracket on the AirSafe ball mount to achieve the same thing. That in addition to being able to adjust the air pressure in the rear air bags in the truck and the AirSafe I should be able to play with it and get the height where it belongs.
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