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Old 08-02-2016, 10:03 PM   #15
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Joy...

If you thought your head was exploding when you started this thread...

Buckle up.

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Old 08-03-2016, 04:39 AM   #16
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"The issue is that folks often establish weight return to the front wheels by measuring the distance from tire to fender arch hitched and unhitched. If the measurement from the tire to the wheel arch is the same unhitched and hitched with the weight distribution applied, it is assumed the weight is 100% returned to the front axles."

Bass-akwards.....never heard of anyone doing that.

Edge of the wheelhouse to the ground thru the tire center.....werks wheelwell.

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Old 08-03-2016, 05:35 AM   #17
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Tire to wheel well or wheel well to ground. Same idea, either works, I've tried both ways, both work.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:18 AM   #18
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Joy,
Good luck to you and safe travels. Your BMW will work just fine for what you want. I set my Town & Country mini van up according to Can-Am instructions. Andy was very helpful. I use an Equalizer hitch and love it. My wife helps with hook up and has no problems. You might call Foley. They might install everything for you or they have a custom hitch guy in the area they work with. Make things easy for yourself don't fret so much. Have Andy send you pictures and instructions on the hitch recomended modification . Go to foley with it and go from there. I had my hitch custom made here in mcallen,tx for $450.00 installed. My electrical wiring harness and brake controller was $150 installed. Since Foley has a guy that knows the equalizer hitches just get it and install it there. You will not be dissatisfied I'm sure.
Good luck you'll be fine. Just remember, people who say it cannot be done, should not interrupt those of us who are doing it.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:57 AM   #19
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I have had EazLift and Equal-i-zer hitches.
Both are effective and do a job well.
My preference for ease of use is Equal-i-zer.
Foley is a Blue Ox dealer. I have had no experience with Blue Ox, but other "Forums users like it.
If I had the money I would get the ProPride, but I am happy with the Equaul-i-zer from now until then. The person that bought my EazLift is happy with it.
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Old 08-03-2016, 12:08 PM   #20
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Go for the best. Propride. We won't ever go back. Worth the expense.
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:20 PM   #21
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My sweetie & I & our two woofers have just returned from the National rally & then the NW rally --- 9000 miles in 6 weeks --- with our 27FB & Blue Ox hitch. Issues:

1. Although there are lots of users on this Forum who swear by the ProPride hitch, our Blue Ox does everything we want with a hitch, & I'm not aware of any real (as opposed to theoretical) advantage a ProPride hitch would provide us, even tho it would cost 4-5 times what we paid for the Blue Ox. Mind you (& all the ProPride users), I'm not complaining about the ProPride hitch (other than about its weight & cost), I'm just saying the Blue Ox so far has done everything we would expect & want a hitch to do.

2. I and many others have had problems with the short, simple, lever arm provided with the Blue Ox, the tool used to tighten its chains. My solution to this was to buy a 25 inch-long cheater bar from Harbor Freight, at approx $10, and attach to it a 1 inch, 6-point, 1/2 inch deep-socket. That provides approx 3 times the torque of the Blue Ox lever arm & makes the job of tightening & loosening the chains effortless (and safer).
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:30 PM   #22
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Go for the best. Propride. We won't ever go back. Worth the expense.
ProPride is a good hitch but Foley has a poor track record installing and setting them up properly.


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Old 08-03-2016, 01:52 PM   #23
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...Step two - ignore the "you don't have enough TV" comments...
A modern 25' Airstream has a tongue weight of over 1000#. When the tongue weight of the trailer exceeds the payload of the TV, I think its fair to say "you don't have enough TV".

X5's hitch is rated at 600#. What is the rating of the hitch after its reinforced?
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:13 PM   #24
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My newbie head exploding with hitch choice

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ProPride is a good hitch but Foley has a poor track record installing and setting them up properly.


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That's very sad, because all you have to do is follow the directions in the very clear manual, and have or buy the right 1/2 inch drive 250 foot-pound torque wrench.

It took me and 18 year old daughter only a couple hours to install it right the first time.


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Old 08-03-2016, 04:10 PM   #25
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For what it's worth, here's a little inside as to towing a 25 FC. I've just returned from a 10,150 mile that went from the Atlantic to the Pacific Oceans plus a lot in between including crossing the continental divide, 7 % grades and every type of terrain imaginable. My TV is a half ton pick up that did a great job in all situations.

If you plan to do any kind of extensive travel I strongly suggest reevaluating your tow vehicle before spending a small fortune trying to retrofit your BMW. When on the Interstate caught between two 18 wheelers passing you at 79 mph you'll be glad you did. If your a weekend camper just driving a couple hundred miles to your destination then you'll be fine in that TV. This is just my 2 cents, but it's 2 cents from someone who's done a lot of towing, over 20,000 towing a trailer and another 25,000 miles towing a car behind a Motorhome.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:22 PM   #26
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We pull our 2016 31' Classic with our 2015 BMW X5 diesel. It pulls and drives so much better than our previous Toyota tundra 5.7l. And we average 15 to 16 miles per gallon. In my opinion, you should consider a Hensley or pro-pride hitch due to the relatively short wheelbase of your X5. We let Andy at Can-Am RV install and reinforce our hitch receiver on the X5. Then we came home and had our BMW dealer install the brake controller and wiring harness for the 7 way connector. The BMW control module and wiring harness ensures that your X5's computer incorporates all the trailer towing functionality. Obviously the BMW installation of the brake controller and wiring harness is not cheap but probably necessary if you want to get it right.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:31 PM   #27
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There ya go.
A real world testimonial of your x5 pulling my trailer - Classic 30 - better than my Tundra...
If an x5 will pull a 30 it will pull a 25.
Get CanAm to reinforce your hitch and get a ProPride.


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A modern 25' Airstream has a tongue weight of over 1000#. When the tongue weight of the trailer exceeds the payload of the TV, I think its fair to say "you don't have enough TV".

X5's hitch is rated at 600#. What is the rating of the hitch after its reinforced?
The tongue weight matters for the strength of the receiver. What matters for tow vehicle payload is the net weight applied to the tow vehicle, not the tongue weight itself.

The receiver is rated at 600 lbs by the manufacturer. They don't change that rating when it is reinforced, as you know. How could they, as they don't have control over that process? And of course, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You don't need a new rating, you need a sufficiently strong receiver for the loads it will see. Fortunately, there are service providers with the experience and skills to do that reinforcing.
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