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Old 09-15-2010, 03:06 PM   #15
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...Please do not join the group that believes otherwise...because your cooling unit can and will vapor lock,

if you run it more than 1/2 bubble off level...y
ya mean like the GROUP making fridges?

there is NO freezer plate in these newer ice boxes.

and the op has a MIDGET fridge with no official 'leveln' point.
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1 thing is true, that being...

IF u r > 1/2 a bubble OFF level...

b ware o'v vapor lock.

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:07 PM   #16
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Ken

Modern or not, Rv reefer cooling units still operate on the "heat absorption" principal.

Please do not join the group that believes otherwise, because your cooling unit can and will vapor lock, if you run it more than 1/2 bubble off level, especiall on a warm to hot day.

Ask those that found out the hard way.

The 1/2 bubble does not apply when the trailer is in motion.

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Andy,

I am not planning on joining any group.

I am simply going to operate my refrigerator in accordance with its manual and would recommend others do the same.

My point is that "1/2 bubble off level" is simply an expression. (it is used usually used to describe someone who behaves oddly.) It has no quantitative value. If you mean when the bubble end is touching the index line of a level, that can vary wildly in number of degrees from one level (tool) to another.

If you tell us within so many degrees of level, that would be of some useful value. Half a bubble means nothing.

In the meantime, I am going to operate as the manual tells me too.

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:08 PM   #17
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One half inch is nothing in the big scheme of things when you consider it is 1/2 inch in distance of 20 feet.

The trailer is not really 1/2 inch high in the front. It is actually 1/4 inch high in the front and a 1/4 inch low in the rear. I don't know if it is a single or dual axle trailer, but in either case, it acts like a teeter totter.

If you lower the front 1/4 inch the rear will raise 1/4 inch and it will be level. This is assuming that the axle(s) are in the middle which is probably not the case, but the idea is the same.

However as far as I am concerned it is level the way it is.

Every adjustable drop bar I have seen has holes every 1 1/2 inches, so I don't see how you are going to get any closer than you are.


These measurements are going to change from trip to trip and from day to day. There are very many variables that effect the leveling especially how the TT and TV are loaded.

So my recommendation is, if it looks level, go tow it and stop measuring it.

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:10 PM   #18
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Andy,

I am not planning on joining any group.

I am simply going to operate my refrigerator in accordance with its manual and would recommend others do the same.

My point is the 1/2 bubble off level is simply an expression. (it is used usually used to describe some one who behaves oddly.) It has no quantitative value. If you mean when the bubble end is touching the index line of a level, that is going to vary wildly in number of degrees from one level (tool) to another.

If you tell us within so many degrees of level, that would be of some useful value. Half a bubble means nothing.

In the meantime, I am going to operate as the manual tells me too.

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Ken.

New trailer reefer's come with a small round level.

It's that level to which I refer.

However, even though most owners cannot measure degrees, I will post the degrees, after I return to my office.

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Old 09-15-2010, 04:13 PM   #19
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Ken.

New trailer reefer's come with a small round level.

It's that level to which I refer.

However, even though most owners cannot measure degrees, I will post the degrees, after I return to my office.

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Are you are talking about the cheap plastic thing that came in my trailer accessory box? (I find no mention of it in any refrigerator documents).

It is not big enough to measure anything except gross off level conditions in a local area. I can put a half bubble out of the center circle simply by moving it an inch away on a known flat surface. It actually changes its reading if I rotate it. (that is handy because it is easier than moving the trailer)

I guess if I'm supposed to use that to measure level, I will have to join the group that doesn't believe in it. (If I can find them)

In the meantime I will go back to the using the manual again.

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...In the meantime I will go back to the using the manual again...
using the manual 2 check for level is a great idea...

just make sure it's been properly balanced at the jack points...

cuze there sure ain't no freezer plates to spin.

(with all due sympathies 2 mary who just asked an innocent ? somewhere here...)

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Old 09-15-2010, 06:42 PM   #21
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using the manual 2 check for level is a great idea...

just make sure it's been properly balanced at the jack points...

cuze there sure ain't no freezer plates to spin.

(with all due sympathies 2 mary who just asked an innocent ? somewhere here...)

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I don't check for level with the manual. I drive a tire up on it if one side is low.

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Lightbulb the CATegorical solution !

I just looked at my avatar and saw the answer.

If Daisy's white patches are pointing straight up, the trailer is level. If they lean to one side, that side is low.

There'll be no cheap plastic levels for me.

I have a cat level.

But first I have to weigh her on the cat scales.

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I don't check for level with the manual. I drive a tire up on it if one side is low. Ken
didn't u get the manual on disc?

it's too thin fer raising tires,

but can be used 2 dig a hole on the high side...

that would be a cat hole, in yer case.

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Old 09-15-2010, 07:58 PM   #24
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Wow! Thanks for ALL the comments. A couple of points in response.....we do trust our dealer, but....I am not crazy about spending $$ unless necessary, for anything these days....hence the question. Also, I trying hard to learn, to read, to listen and to do for myself as much as possible. Seemed to me that so many factors could change the level; I thought I was awfully with it and figured I could maybe feel reasonably good with the level as is. I do have pictures related to the leveling question, but thought it would be overkill to post....since the question seemed kinda small compared to many many more interesting and challenging topics on this forum. I did some tweaking with the bars, chains, load, etc, and found that the leveling, inside the trailer, changed about about 1/4" in either direction. We will keep an eye on it and have the dealer check it out on our next trip to the dealership. We live about 1.5 hrs. from the dealer so I don't want to take a towing trip unless/until it is really worthwhile. again thanks to those who so kindly responded!
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Anyone know what brand hitch this is?

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The hitch shown in your photo is made by Reese.

To report the difference in degrees of the position of a 24 inch level and a 1 1/2 level, when they are both 1/2 bubble off, we measure them to be exactly the same.

Obviously, a 24 inch level would not fit very well on an RV freezer shelf.

Hope this answers the question of "bubble" accuracys.

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The hitch shown in your photo is made by Reese.

To report the difference in degrees of the position of a 24 inch level and a 1 1/2 level, when they are both 1/2 bubble off, we measure them to be exactly the same.

Obviously, a 24 inch level would not fit very well on an RV freezer shelf.

Hope this answers the question of "bubble" accuracys.

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Sorry.

The 1 1/2 level should say 1 1/2 inch level.

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Andy,

I am not planning on joining any group.

I am simply going to operate my refrigerator in accordance with its manual and would recommend others do the same.

My point is that "1/2 bubble off level" is simply an expression. (it is used usually used to describe someone who behaves oddly.) It has no quantitative value. If you mean when the bubble end is touching the index line of a level, that can vary wildly in number of degrees from one level (tool) to another.

If you tell us within so many degrees of level, that would be of some useful value. Half a bubble means nothing.

In the meantime, I am going to operate as the manual tells me too.

Regards,

Ken
It appears that a half bubble off is 1 degree.
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