Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-10-2010, 10:08 AM   #1
New Member
 
2004 19' Bambi
O'Fallon , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
Is sway control bar necessary? 3/4 ton Diesel pulling a 19' Bambi?

Just purchased my 1st AS a couple of weeks ago. I was pulling a 5th wheel and the "new to me" AS came with Reese W/D setup, along with a sway bar. I hardly notice this thing behind the truck and don't enjoy removing the sway bar every time I want to back up...is it necessary? If the pros outweigh the cons, then I will deal with the hassle, just thought I would ask those with more expertise in this area? Thanks in advance...great forum and love my "new to me" AS! --Mitch--
__________________

__________________
QwstnEvrythg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 10:30 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
RickDavis's Avatar

 
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown , Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,781
With that combination I see no need for the sway control bar. I am assuming it is a friction device.
It should not be necessary to remove it backing up however unless you are practically jacknifed.
All new trailers are towed to dealers without sway control regardless of size, usually with 3/4 or one ton trucks, sway control is an aftermarket product..
If you go to a larger trailer you might want to reconsider
__________________

__________________
Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles

RickDavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 10:31 AM   #3
Rivet Master
 
FreshAir's Avatar

 
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,327
Images: 2
You will get several responses to this question. One will be that your large truck may be too much for the Bambi. The truck's suspension may be too stiff and will 'beat' up the trailer. By sway bar do you mean the Weight Distribution Hitch (WDH)? This may help ease that punishment your truck is creating. As for backing up I don't believe the Reese will need to be removed. I don't have a Reese but know a number of Reese users and at the number AS rallies I've attended I 've never seen anyone remove their WDH to back up. I haven't removed my actual 'sway' bar to back up. It is sometimes noisy tho.
Welcome to the Airstream community.
Neil
__________________
Neil and Lynn Holman
FreshAir #12407

Avatar;
Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.

1966 Trade Wind

1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid

1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
FreshAir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 10:54 AM   #4
3 Rivet Member
 
1978 31' Excella 500
Goose Creek , South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 136
Images: 9
I see no need for the sway control on that combo. Your TV is plenty in regards to weight and power.
__________________
Holzarbeiter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 11:06 AM   #5
Maniacal Engineer
 
barts's Avatar
 
1971 25' Tradewind
Menlo Park , California
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,223
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 4
I pull our Tradewind with our 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 Crewcab sans both WD or anti-sway. You won't need either with a Bambi.

- Bart
__________________
Bart Smaalders
Menlo Park, CA
http://tinpickle.blogspot.com
http://smaalders.net/barts
barts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 11:25 AM   #6
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
Quote:
Originally Posted by QwstnEvrythg View Post
...is it necessary? If the pros outweigh the cons, then I will deal with the hassle...
hi qwstn' and wLcm 2 d 4um...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...rol-17986.html

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 11:37 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 811
Try it on the interstate with no sway control bar when there is a crosswind. If you get passed by a semi and there is no buffeting, there is no need for a sway control bar.
My guess is that you will not need a sway control bar.
I have owned four different travel trailers and needed a sway control with only one rig--a big boxy trailer and an SUV with soft suspension.
My Airstreams and a HiLo towed just fine without a sway control bar.
__________________
handn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 06:39 PM   #8
New Member
 
2004 19' Bambi
O'Fallon , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
Thank you very much for the replies. 2air, I read through that very "long" thread and appreciate the link (yes, I read the all 6 pages)! ;-) I'm a bit out of whack at present with my setup b/c the Reese W/D hitch provided, does not give me the proper "drop" to level things out. Previous owner was pulling with a Sportrac and I, obviously, am pulling with something significantly taller and heavier (2005 Dodge 2500 Diesel). For the maiden voyage home, I pulled it with the weight distribution bars and the sway bar. Trailer is currently sitting tongue high/up, but Reese shank cannot be adjusted downwards any further...just had 1.5 inches of drop. I've got a 5.75 inch shank on order (should be in on Monday) and that should level trailer with TV.

I pulled the AS to a local campsite this weekend with the weight distribution bars and w/o the sway bar on Interstates (approx. 45-50 miles). No issues, but will definitely throw it on for longer trips and maybe even shorter ones, considering the "backing up" knowledge I received from the replies. It's a friction setup that I can gather. It has a ball on the hitch and a ball on the A frame, the sway bar is attached to both balls, then a small arm is turned to increase the friction tension...? Anyway, I'm not a speedster and am rarely in a hurry to get anywhere, so the added time of attaching the sway bar is not an issue, nor is removal upon arrival at my destination.

Just want to say thanks to all. If it was a 100% reply that a sway bar wasn't needed, I would throw it in the garage, but will error on the safe side and spend a few extra minutes at departure and arrival.
__________________
QwstnEvrythg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2010, 01:21 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
ROBERTSUNRUS's Avatar

 
2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,266
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 51
Little trailer, large truck.

Hi, you might want to consider something like an Air-Safe hitch so your large truck doesn't beat the little trailer to death. [just a thought]
__________________
Bob

2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent"
[ Small Silver Castle ]
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2010, 08:31 PM   #10
3 Rivet Member
 
wagnerda's Avatar
 
2006 19' Safari SE
Central Part , Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 160
Hi, for my 2 cents, having towed a 19' Bambi for 30K+ miles with an F350 diesel you do not need any sway controls or even weight distribution. Your truck is really overkill, but that is fine. My experience says to disregard all those who tell you that you have too much truck and it will beat your trailer to pieces. My trailer rides much smoother behind my big diesel than it did behind my Ford Ranger. Just make sure you are towing level and you will be just fine.

best regards...
__________________
Dave&Shari Wagner
2006 Bambi SE,
2008 Ford F350 Diesel 4x4
AIR#23096
" I am lost and have gone Airstreaming to find myself, If I should return before I get back, please ask me to wait..."
wagnerda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2010, 09:37 PM   #11
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by QwstnEvrythg View Post
Just purchased my 1st AS a couple of weeks ago. I was pulling a 5th wheel and the "new to me" AS came with Reese W/D setup, along with a sway bar. I hardly notice this thing behind the truck and don't enjoy removing the sway bar every time I want to back up...is it necessary? If the pros outweigh the cons, then I will deal with the hassle, just thought I would ask those with more expertise in this area? Thanks in advance...great forum and love my "new to me" AS! --Mitch--
Your quote of "hardly notice" spells out the answer to your question.

With proper rigging, the "hardly notice" changes to "never noticed".

Insurance company stats say the more and better you can rig, the safer your towing will be.

As with anything involving safety, when can anyone, ever, say, I don't need anymore, or any of it?

Trucks, contrary to opinions, are not, in any form, a magical tow vehicle, that allows simple safety issues to be discarded.

Backing up with a sway bar, if properly installed, never becomes an issue, and does not have to be removed until you disconnect.

Andy
__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 10:03 PM   #12
Rivet Master
 
1963 19' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Moline , Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 635
I tow a Globetrotter with a 3/4 ton Dodge and use an Equalizer hitch. Overkill for towing? May be , but I don't want to find out the hard way.
__________________
63air is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 07:25 AM   #13
New Member
 
2004 19' Bambi
O'Fallon , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
An update...

I received the extended drop shank for the Weight Distribution setup and am finally level. I pulled from the STL area to the Hoosier Nat'l Forest area immediately following that and watched everything closely. Shortly after that, I pulled to the DC area and back...again, outstanding results. I love the way this thing tows and am very pleased to be an AS owner. I do not use the "friction" sway device, but do utilize the weight distribution bars and have adjusted the chains to reduce the distribution across the truck. The trailer seems happier in this setup, but still watching closely. On a side note, I was recently in Germany/France for two weeks and snapped the attached pic. I was amazed at the number of small trailers on the Autobahn...never saw a truck pulling one. --<Mitch>--
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	mercedes.jpg
Views:	162
Size:	83.0 KB
ID:	109802  
__________________
QwstnEvrythg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 07:33 AM   #14
Naysayer
 
Boondocker's Avatar

 
1968 24' Tradewind
Louisville , earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,635
Images: 7
Send a message via Yahoo to Boondocker
I would still think about adding a anti-sway bar. They are inexpensive, and to be honest, how big of a deal is it, really, to take it on and off when parking or hooking up. On the other hand, having one in place might very well provide you with the margin that prevents a catastrophic event.
__________________

__________________
Rodney

Visit my photography page
and the
Favorite camp grounds project map
My Blog

(The artist formerly known as General Disarray)

Boondocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reese Dual Cam Sway for Explorer pulling Bambi ?? SoonerStream Hitches, Couplers & Balls 5 02-27-2010 02:02 PM
L-pins are grinding against the sway bars on my Equal-i-zer sway control hitch Simoneau Hitches, Couplers & Balls 9 06-20-2009 09:28 AM
even bambi needs sway control 2airishuman Hitches, Couplers & Balls 74 10-31-2007 11:03 PM
Torsion Bar vs Sway Bar acrane Hitches, Couplers & Balls 9 07-31-2006 07:11 AM
Sway Control for Bambi Safari 19' jschelle 1997 - 2004 Bambi 5 05-10-2004 03:40 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.