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07-24-2013, 03:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 22' FB Sport
Wichita
, Kansas
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 71
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How do you level your trailer?
We just bought a 2013 22' and are still working through all the little tweaks to make it home. In doing so, we bought a couple bubble levels to install on the trailer, but cannot seem to actually get the trailer level. We are using another level to appropriately place the levels we bought (if that makes sense), but no matter where we put the level, something just isn't right. So far, we've tried using the interior floor, countertop, and dinette table as "level" guides, but when one of them is level, the other areas aren't level. It's very frustrating. So, for now, we're still eyeballing it. So... How do you level your trailer?
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07-24-2013, 03:55 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,534
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The floor is your best bet. By the time you get to the countertop there are more variables in play. Basically you need to pick a point and stick with it, and since you're standing/walking on the floor, that's where you'd notice it the most. With a modern fridge, "close" is good enough, so just start from the floor where you can measure both ways with a carpenter's level, and get is as close as you can left-to-right with blocks (with the tongue jack you should be able to get the fore-and-aft level nearly perfect.)
Then install the outside levels accordingly, declare "good enough!" and have an adult beverage of your choice.
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07-24-2013, 04:05 PM
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begorragirl
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Denville
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,029
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I mostly eyeball then decide which way my head will be on the bed and if I will fall out of bed or roll to the window. So far pretty accurate measure, although I carry a capenders level.
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07-24-2013, 04:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,377
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How do you level your trailer?
Hi, I guess this could be answered two different ways.
How do I level my trailer?
(1.) I use plastic leveling blocks under my tires to level my trailer from side to side.
(2.) I use my tongue jack to level my trailer from front to rear.
How do I level my trailer?
(1.) I used a carpenter's level, resting on top of my belt line molding, in the middle of one side of my trailer. [note: not all Airstreams come with a belt line molding] This allows you to level your trailer front to rear.
(2.) I used my carpenter's level on my battery box and on my rear bumper, they both agreed.
(3.) Now with my trailer sitting level in both directions, I mounted a large RV level in the front of my trailer, which can be seen from my tow vehicle's mirror and two small RV levels, one on each side near the front, to be checked when using my tongue jack.
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07-24-2013, 04:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Someone else noticed that too? If you get it level on the a frame, it isn't level anywhere else. If you get it level at the rub rail, it isn't level anywhere else. If you get it level by the window sill, it isn't level anywhere else. I usually eyeball it and compare it with other RVs nearby. Most every site we pick is level side to side so all we are doing is leveling front to back with the tongue jack.
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07-24-2013, 05:00 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
2011 30' International
mooresburg
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2009
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07-24-2013, 05:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2004 19' Bambi
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: May 2011
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If you have an iPhone. Download the free version of RVCompanion. It has a leveler in the more tab.
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07-24-2013, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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My Airstream seems to lack parallel or exactly perpendicular walls and the floor is not parallel with the counter tops. The only item I have read about that really wants to see level is the refrigerator with fluid cooling of some sort.
Thus, I thought getting a level in the refrigerator and when it is right on, attach external bubble levels on the front and side of the trailer to reflect the happy level status of the refrigerator.
I doubt I would fall out of bed over the few degrees variation in level between various surfaces in the trailer.
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07-24-2013, 05:59 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Palomar Mountain
, California
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 355
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I was told to level the steel plate inside the freezer. The only thing important to be anywhere level in the trailer is the refrigerator. Once you have the refrigerator level - apply bubble levels outside.
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07-24-2013, 07:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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After I back into a site, I put a small bubble leveler on my A-frame right behind the hitch. I use that to set right & left leveling and whether I need blocks under which wheel. I don't like sink splash flowing toward the wall. My kitchen & bathroom are curbside, so usually set that side a little high. And the same bubble leveler is used to set my fore-and-aft orientation. I know I could get more exact but it's easy and hard to beat.
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07-24-2013, 07:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
asbury park
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Psshht. I put a can Of baked beans on the floor. If it rolls fast, we got a problem. If it rolls slow, then hey, we didn't do so bad. If it doesn't move then its beer time!
I just thought of something...
Skip the beans and use the beer! Saves steps!
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07-24-2013, 07:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
Vintage Kin Owner
Bad Axe
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 564
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We eyeball it, then go in and open the bathroom door. If it doesn't swing. it is level.
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07-24-2013, 07:39 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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If your trailer feels level to you and you are comfortable in it, then it is level. If you're not happy with that simple approach, pick a horizontal surface and use any inexpensive level. Always measure the same place exactly. If you use different horizontal surfaces, then you will eventually go insane, because they will not be the same. If you are really hung up on this in you trailer, go try leveling your house. You will find differences in different parts of your house. I guarantee it. So if you can live with it in your house, all it takes is the right attitude to live with it in your trailer.
Ken
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07-24-2013, 07:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Saint Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJtoNC
Psshht. I put a can Of baked beans on the floor. If it rolls fast, we got a problem. If it rolls slow, then hey, we didn't do so bad. If it doesn't move then its beer time!
I just thought of something...
Skip the beans and use the beer! Saves steps!
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We just eyeball it, but this sounds fun! I'm trying this technique next time!!
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07-24-2013, 07:49 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollster
We just eyeball it, but this sounds fun! I'm trying this technique next time!!
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With a user name of Rollster, I am not surprised that the rolling can approach appeals to you.
Ken
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07-24-2013, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
Vintage Kin Owner
Bad Axe
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 564
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJtoNC
Psshht. I put a can Of baked beans on the floor. If it rolls fast, we got a problem. If it rolls slow, then hey, we didn't do so bad. If it doesn't move then its beer time!
I just thought of something...
Skip the beans and use the beer! Saves steps!
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Oh, come on! Roll beer??? That is alcohol abuse.
Debbie
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07-24-2013, 09:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Disconnect trailer from TV or dial off your brakes...
We have the cellphone app. Engage, put on trailer floor or inside fridge access on outside (check that the fridge inside matches outside first), add boards under low side tires (drive forward and back to get AS tires on the boards). You can use "leveling blocks" but sometimes they are "too much" of a change. So, 2x6 boards about 12 inches long for each low side tire. You can use longer boards and they are handy on "squishy" parking sites. They can be long enough to go under all tires on each side if you like. That spreads the load nicely on the ground. This handy for long multiple night stays in same spot...it is amazing how a few thousand pounds can move the ground.
If on concrete, it is usually less of a concern.
You can then add a few pieces of 1/2, 3/4, 3/8 ply or plank for more accurate level setting using the forward/back method... This is where a longer board works well so new pieces don't skid as bad when trying to climb them.
Finally, carry 2 bottle jacks and use them to "fine tune" your level by jacking at the labeled spots on you trailer. But make sure the "front to rear level" is correct with tongue jack first! Also, place the jack on a board about three times the jack base size to carry the load.. ( watch about halfway into the movie "The Long, Long Trailer!" For WRONG way to use a bottle jack... Remember, tho, the actor portrays an engineer...
Now, deploy your "stabilizers"...and try to put on wood because it will hold better than the ground or a "leveling" block.
We bought some cheaper leveling blocks.. They crush easily on rocks and deform so they no longer stack in the sack they came in. Unfortunately they make lousy frisbees.
A trick for keeping stacked boards from sliding when climbing is to have round head screws on top of lower board to help "bite" the board above. Or, toss a handful of sand...(a coffee can of play sand works. ) or some fine gravel around the site such as found in a fire pit.
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07-24-2013, 09:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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I keep an RV target level in the freezer as it's most important to have the frig level. Once leveled side to side using RV legos, chock the wheels, unhitch and level front to back. Fine tune using the bathroom door test as dkrug describes. Most of all, it has to feel right! When I cook breakfast and my egg slides to one side of the pan, I know I did it wrong!
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07-25-2013, 04:44 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Using bottle jacks can twist the frame. Use blocks under the tires and the front jack to level. Then stabilize with the stabilizers. No bottle jacks on frame. Jim
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07-25-2013, 05:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic Slideout
2021 33FB Classic
Colleyville
, TX
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,540
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Small bubble levels on the front and side of our Airstream work well enough for us after using the tongue jack with blocks under the tire combo. We've been doing this almost since day one and have yet to fall out of bed
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