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Old 01-15-2015, 06:57 AM   #15
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Mark & Mindy,

In my towing career I have used the following:

Drawtite WD with a friction sway dampener (with my SOB)

Equal-I-Zer (30' Classic)

Reese Straight Line (30' Classic)

Hensley Arrow (30' Classic)

You can reverse the order for the order of preference, performance and my recommendation.

The PPP design is by far the best system for true control of sway, wind input, and overall handling. I got a Hensley only because of a great price on a low mile, gently used one becoming available. If I were buying new, my preference would be a ProPride, due to some design enhancements and customer support. I do have a Propride adjustable stinger made up by Sean specifically for HAHA users. That, IMO, is the biggest advantage to PP over HAHA.

The PPP experts here can help you with proper setup and Sean is available for advice as well. Don't let the dealer's refusal to set up be a deal breaker.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:07 AM   #16
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Propride... good choice. It 'eliminates' sway... a real hassle and potentially dangerous trailer/tow vehicle behavior.... even a Hensley ... is better than a standard WD hitch.. and 'sway control'.

I tow with 2012 2500 Dmax (LML) Silverado HD 4x4.. you don't 'need' the 4x4 until you NEED a 4x4... but don't replace your vehicle for that reason alone.

We tow the 34' you see in the avatar.. the truck blocks the view.

Be SURE your hitch is up to the task.. GM had some round tube receivers which I would only use to install a step block...not tow anything.

Does your 2500 have factory 'brake controller'.. ???

So.. you don't have your location in the info tab... send me a PM and I can give you the skinny on the Propride...or, go blind reading the forums... whichever you prefer.
FYI, the round GM receivers subject to some twisting and weld fatigue were only on the 1500 series GMT 800 and maybe early GMT 900 lines. They were reinforced with some additional plates somewhere along the way during the production run. This wasn't an issue on any of the HDs. In fact, the later 1500s and especially the HDs, as well as the Last generation of FS SUVs had the receiver, not as an add on, but as the last structural frame member. This brought the receiver to a new standard for crash testing, as well as a trailer coupling device. They have been rectangular, And a very large cross section for quite some time now. I have never seen any movement or twisting on any of the SUVs and HDs for years. I haven't towed (overloaded) with a half ton, but the receiver is NOT the same as it was 10 years ago.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:40 AM   #17
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I never had an issue with the receiver on my '08 2500 GMC, and I towed a 31' a lot with it.

I would also recommend the ProPride hitch with one caveat, and that is that your new trailer DOES NOT have electric over hydraulic brakes, and does have electric brakes. If you would like more information on that subject, please PM me.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:46 AM   #18
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I can't recall sway with our Equl-I-Zer hitch but the trailer sure moved aside in gusting sidewinds and passing semis, and a steady sidewind kept it slightly out of alignment with the truck.

None of that whatsoever with the ProPride. And the hitching/unhitching is simpler, adjusting the weight distribution bars is simple and variable with the screw jacks, and the heavy hitch head and w.d. bars stay on the trailer when unhitching. Would not want to tow without it, not fully realized until I used it.

That was sway. I had it with equalizer hitch, also, and was so fed up, we got a Hensley. Tows our 30' Classic like a dream, equalizes the weight better that those chain links could, and no sway. Second best money I ever spent, the AS was the best money spent....


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Old 01-15-2015, 07:53 AM   #19
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That was sway. I had it with equalizer hitch, also, and was so fed up, we got a Hensley. Tows our 30' Classic like a dream, equalizes the weight better that those chain links could, and no sway. Second best money I ever spent, the AS was the best money spent....


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Don't quite understand that because the Equal-I-zer brand of weight distribution hitch does not use chains. Did you possibly have an Easilift hitch?
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Thank you, Rich for clarification!
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FYI, the round GM receivers subject to some twisting and weld fatigue were only on the 1500 series GMT 800 and maybe early GMT 900 lines. .....eiver to a new standard for crash testing, as well as a trailer coupling device. They have been rectangular, And a very large cross section for quite some time now. I have never seen any movement or twisting on any of the SUVs and HDs for years. I haven't towed (overloaded) with a half ton, but the receiver is NOT the same as it was 10 years ago.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:30 AM   #21
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I actually experienced the GM round hitch weakness on a rig in our past. We pulled a 2002 SunnyBrook Titan 31' 2 slide TT (1100lb hitch, 9800lb ish wet weight) with a 2003 4WD Chevy 2500HD extended cab Duramax. The coach had a Hensley hitch, and I could see the round hitch tube on that truck "torque" when you adjusted the Hensley for towing.

I swapped the hitch myself with a much beefier Class IV square tube bolt-on replacement hitch. I don't remember the brand but is was a well-known one, with like 1400lb tw /14,000lb gw ratings. No more twist/torque when dialed in for towing, and a big improvement in performance even on the Hensley. Man I wish I'd kept that truck.............
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When Overlander 63 (Terry) endorses something I have learned to listen. Although, I have had both the Hensley and now have a Pro Pride.

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Old 01-15-2015, 09:43 AM   #23
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I actually experienced the GM round hitch weakness on a rig in our past. We pulled a 2002 SunnyBrook Titan 31' 2 slide TT (1100lb hitch, 9800lb ish wet weight) with a 2003 4WD Chevy 2500HD extended cab Duramax. The coach had a Hensley hitch, and I could see the round hitch tube on that truck "torque" when you adjusted the Hensley for towing.

I swapped the hitch myself with a much beefier Class IV square tube bolt-on replacement hitch. I don't remember the brand but is was a well-known one, with like 1400lb tw /14,000lb gw ratings. No more twist/torque when dialed in for towing, and a big improvement in performance even on the Hensley. Man I wish I'd kept that truck.............
This thread reminded me that I needed to get rid of the round tube hitch on our 2003 Suburban 2500. I don't see any broken welds but with my luck they won't show up until it is too late to do anything about it. Just ordered a Curt Class V hitch.
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:49 AM   #24
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At the Chevy Store we were replacing hitches under warranty right up to my retiring in 2009.

This is the OEM unit installed on our 2006 2500 Suburban…
Made in Canada...



I replaced it with a Tow Beast V before towing the AS.


This is the new style in bumper ‘square’ tube on a 2007 Suburban.


Rear view of the same vehicle. Completely new design much improved.

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Old 01-15-2015, 01:18 PM   #25
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Robert, perhaps I wasn't clear. For the GMT900 SUVs, the square "frame member" receiver is the one where the receiver is BEHIND (Not below) the bumper, usually with a cover over it (can't remember the year it started, and it may have been a running change). I know both the Yukon XL and the Escalade I had were both HUGE rectangular receivers. The HD2500/3500 GMT900, all new chassis didn't start until 2011.
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:40 PM   #26
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I would like to try a PP just to verify the difference as we have been completely satisfied with our same EQ hitch on the last four TTs; however, we have always towed with a relatively heavy pickup truck and that might account for the lack of any perceived sway with the EQ. When the $$ are already expended on the EQ, it is hard to take the hit and come up with more $$ for a PP. The local AS dealer charged us $1k for EQ + install. Then we got it home and re-set everything. Fortunately, the propane line did not get pinched or rupture!

One caveat that resurfaces on here periodically is the hitching / unhitching issues for new PP owners; search, read, and decide on the PP for yourself. I know that I have hitched up with the EQ under a variety of adverse settings and never had an issue... do it by myself and generally takes about 3-4 minutes from beginning ...to safety chain -hooked -up end.
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Rich,

"the square "frame member" receiver is the one where the receiver is BEHIND (Not below) the bumper, usually with a cover over it (can't remember the year it started."

I think it started in 2007, (as pictured above), I remember 'cuz the hitch height changed drastically and a few customers wern't thrilled with having to get a new drop.
I believe the failure problem started around 2002 continued 'til at least 2006, going by the number of replacements we were still doing under warrantee in 2009.

I know ours was one I wouldn't trust any further than I could throw a potato chip.



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Old 01-15-2015, 02:39 PM   #28
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Ohhhh, were the two bottom pics NOT your vehicle? I seem to remember you had a white 800?
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