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Old 01-10-2011, 10:58 PM   #15
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I have a 09 Touareg TDI that I never have towed with, but I just got back from new Orleans and there was a generic SOB trAiler being towed by a t-reg v8 from Canada. I am going to guess 32 footer, owner says it tows really good (he had Hensley) just wish it got a bit better mileage.

I have a bunch of kids so I tow with my suburban, but the VW does impress me.
Good to hear! I know of at least two others with a v8 Touareg towing 31 ft. I know of a third person towing a 2008 25 ft. model with the V6, without a W/D hitch (obviously 6 ft. shorter, but still.).
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:01 PM   #16
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Hi, you need to take it to a body shop and hopefully they can gain access to this area without weakening it by drilling, cutting, or torching it. An access hole from the inner panel may work for installing a new nut.
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adwriter73,

Please come visit your fellow "Touareg & Cayenne" owners either at "Rennlist" under the "Cayenne" forum or at "Club Touareg" on their forums.

I have the same user name on both - have been towing with both a V8 Cayenne S with air suspension since 2004 and upgraded to a 2010 TDI Touareg with steel suspension just last January.

If you have found "install" instructions for brake controllers for either vehicle, chances are my name rings a bell.

I am hopeful that you can come visit us on either forum, lots of information that will be very helpful to you as you contemplate towing your new 31 Airstream trailer with your Touareg.

Best Wishes,

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Old 01-11-2011, 02:29 PM   #18
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To answer one of your questions, YES, you do need all those bolts. They are designed for all of them to be there, and all properly torqued. You will be putting 25% more strain on the remaining bolts, which can overstress them. They can and probably will stretch, loosen, or break at the most inopportune moment.
If you can get no help from VW, try one of your better auto body shops for help. They deal with damaged fasteners all the time.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:45 PM   #19
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Adwriter73,

I had a similar issue with my E46 BMW (323ci). There is a very common issue with weak welds in the mounts of the subframe where over time the welds fatuige and break causing the mounts to pull through the body. These mount are threaded in the middle and the bolts are then installed. I ask a body shop about fixing this and was quoted $5k. I said no way. In a first attempt I welded the mount back in but that only lasted about 4 months because the metal is 3/32" thick. I decieded to see if I could bolt all the way through the frame and in to the trunk with long bolt. After careful measuring I gathered supplies. The original bolt was 5" and 5/8" diameter but it was aluminum for weight savings. I purchased a 12" long 1/2" shank grade 8 bolt and drilled up in to the trunk. I used a 2"x2" 1/4" aluminum plate that I had lying around and drilled a matching hole in the plate. I installed this from the inside so that the nut was on the bottom. This setup has worked fine for 6 years and even the shop thought that was a great way to do it.

The location of the hole for me was in the trunk under the carpet near the spare tire well. Unless I have a flat tire you would never know about this. I know the grade 8 bolt is 10x stronger than the original bolt. I hope this might work for you.

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I cannot bvelieve they would use aluminum bolts to hold a hitch. Sal.
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Sal,

You might be surprised
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Its probably just me, but not to much surprises me anymore. Sal.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:16 PM   #23
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adwriter73,

Please come visit your fellow "Touareg & Cayenne" owners either at "Rennlist" under the "Cayenne" forum or at "Club Touareg" on their forums.

I have the same user name on both - have been towing with both a V8 Cayenne S with air suspension since 2004 and upgraded to a 2010 TDI Touareg with steel suspension just last January.

If you have found "install" instructions for brake controllers for either vehicle, chances are my name rings a bell.

I am hopeful that you can come visit us on either forum, lots of information that will be very helpful to you as you contemplate towing your new 31 Airstream trailer with your Touareg.

Best Wishes,

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John, I am on Club Touareg under "adwriter73", same as here. I will check out "Rennlist". Would love to hear your input on installing the brake controller. I will look up your posts. I bought the Tekonsha P2 to install in my Twarg.
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I'm taking the vehicle to the dealer's body shop on Thursday for them to take a look at what they can do to correct the problem.
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I bought the Tekonsha P2 to install in my Twarg.
Used the P2 with the Cayenne - only went with the P3 for the T-Rex cause I liked the little graphics on the display.

We have beat to death the install procedures for both revisions of the Pepper & T-Rex - do a search and read up as all your questions (and then some) can be found - but if you think of a new one just give me a shout! Always glad to help.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:43 AM   #26
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Wow. Lots of response. Let me see if I can provide more details:

1. The VW dealer tech told me that there is a weld nut on the back (he thinks) and that must have broken loose. There is no access to the back of the holes. I would have to create an opening to reach it.
If the welded nut has in fact broken loose I would try to drill a SMALL access hole adjacent to the nut so that a hardened rod (screw driver) could be inserted adjacent to the nut and fulcrumed against the nut to keep it from turning while tightening the bolt. With friction against the broken weld sheet metal AND the fulcrumed rod you may be able to stop the nut from turning to get the proper torque applied to it. If you can get the proper torque than the broken spot welds wont matter.

Additionally, see my avatar Ive pulled a 31 foot 2002 ASCL 8,300# GVWR for over 32,000 miles with my 2001 BMW X5 using a Hensley without any problem what so ever.
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UPDATE: Took it in to the body shop today. I don't quite know what they did, but they got the bolt out. Sounded like they had to drill out a larger hole to accommodate a larger bolt as the existing hole threads were damaged during the removal of the bolt. All I asked is that everything is tightened to spec and safe to pull what I need to pull.
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Could it be time for a Ford F150/250/350
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