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Old 06-28-2013, 05:46 PM   #29
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If it works and it is safe for use - at this juncture in my life there are budget concerns believe it or not

Now in 2018 when student loans are gone I'll have 4 new money trees in the backyard

I need to keep as much money in my pocket now to enjoy more so the expense of travel in the coming years!

Now if the argument is that the EQ or Reese or eaz-lift etc are unsafe or perhaps "significantly less safe" or "not reaching an acceptable safety threshold" then I would shell it out....seems like we have equal amounts of anecdote here either way - with few saying the lower cost alternatives are a "bad idea". - complaints seem more of noise and technicalities of hookup - important distinctions for sure though....
I have both the EazLift and the Equal-I-Zer. Both are excellent products in my humble opinion, not unsafe at all, but the Equal-I-Zer is much easier to hook up. In my mind a ProPride or Hensley Arrow would be even easier to hook up, and possibly you would never feel any sway at all. Sway is "controlled" very well with the EazLift and Equal-I-Zer, but is supposedly "eliminated" with the Hensley or ProPride. I would love the opportunity to find out some day.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:48 PM   #30
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5 more years of student loan debt...it will go by really fast.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:55 PM   #31
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Of course, the advantage of AirForums is the ability to harvest a LOT of possibilities before you commit yourself to a course of action. And, most everyone is pretty passionate. And, some of us have the hindsight of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" .... where we made a call on something and second guessed it later. For me, a lot of that has been about how/where to spend the $. One of the lessons I've learned over and over is that when I've "settled" for less than optimum I have inevitably regretted it.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:28 PM   #32
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Silverleaf has a point. Think about it. How many Airstreamers "settled for less" on their trailers or tow vehicles? That ride is awesome. No point in settling for less on a hitch, either.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:56 AM   #33
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Penny wise, dollar foolish.

My Equal-I-Zer cost $700 installed, didn't like it so my Andersen cost $400 self-installed. That was a failure so bought a Propride for $2500 and discovered what towing ease, comfort, and control really are.

Wanted ProPride/Hensley in the first place but was advised these others are "good enough".

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Old 06-29-2013, 09:06 AM   #34
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Penny wise, dollar foolish.

My Equal-I-Zer cost $700 installed, didn't like it so my Andersen cost $400 self-installed. That was a failure so bought a Propride for $2500 and discovered what towing ease, comfort, and control really are.

Wanted ProPride/Hensley in the first place but was advised these others are "good enough".

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That is expensive R&D - sorry to hear that.

I think the OP is looking at a 2013 or 2014. So perhaps it's helpful to think of amortizing the cost over the life of the trailer. A ProPride will be about 3% of the cost of the trailer and if you assume 20 years of ownership, about $125/yr. the Equal-I-zer you mentioned would be just $35/yr. Given the high cost of the trailer to begin with, $90/yr seems very reasonable to me to know I'm preventing sway from happening in the first place.

Everyone's mileage will vary....be comfortable with your decision and know why you're making it. :-)
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:55 PM   #35
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blue ox hitch was included in price at "no cost"...I did a pretty decent job in negotiating...a few slip ups I think, but got a pretty good deal I think based on prices discussed for factory new on this site.

So I figure I will get to drive with this hitch at "no cost" for a while.....if I am not pleased then I will indeed upgrade to one of these other hitches.

PS - that airstream video on the site where the AS is being towed and swayed around back and forth and SOB is almost tipping over...which hitch were they using in that video??
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:58 PM   #36
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I found the blue ox intriguing because I can still get the tailgate down and use it for bikes and stuff without unhitching...kinda cool....experience will tell....my wife and I solo will pick up the unit, stay overnight at the dealer and likely camp most of that weekend, perhaps even through the weekend and tow home. I will be watching closely for any perceived sway and other problems....hopefully the dealer will set it up "ok" but I suspect I will need to do some tweaking...seems that is common with hitches...there is a learning curve with most it appears....
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:52 PM   #37
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Well said, mstephens - including your last line :-)

I don't know what the $4500 refers to, however. I know there are different configurations but the PP is closer to $2500 (maybe the HA is in that higher range? Don't know...).

Regardless of that detail, I think your summary in the snippet quoted above is absolutely spot on!
Seems to me the Hensley hitch quoted to me was $4500. If not, my apology for the mistake. If the top end is $2500, I think the point still stands that a person buying a $600 or $700 WD hitch is not an evil person threatening society.
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I found the blue ox intriguing because I can still get the tailgate down and use it for bikes and stuff without unhitching...kinda cool....experience will tell....my wife and I solo will pick up the unit, stay overnight at the dealer and likely camp most of that weekend, perhaps even through the weekend and tow home. I will be watching closely for any perceived sway and other problems....hopefully the dealer will set it up "ok" but I suspect I will need to do some tweaking...seems that is common with hitches...there is a learning curve with most it appears....
If you are financing the TT with the hitch you might consider paying the dealer $1800 more for an upgrade from blue ox to ProPride . Going back later, it will cost you $2500 plus about $400 minimum for removal of the blue ox & installation of ProPride, travel expenses back to the dealer and more holes drilled on your A frame. Instead of initial expense of $1800 you will now be looking at somewhere around $3600 easily.
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Do not count on the dealer getting it set up properly. I started with a ProPride so the towing was fine, but I went to CAT scales on the way home and the WD needed some adjustments.
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Real food for thought - I expect the dealer will balk at this but as I continue to consider this matter I may go that route....

I'm still not sold necessarily on the propride as there are so many that report pulling very well with others - many of these folks are very experienced.

Interesting to see in concept how it works - could someone show a diagram how equalizer, blue ox, or Reese does the job as a compare and contrast?
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I do not think you are ever going to get a clear decision from the forum; you are going to have to trust your gut. My life's lessons, for big ticket items, have included spend the money to do it right the first time. If I were pulling with a dually I would have been tempted to go cheaper on a hitch but with a 1/2 ton Chevy I wanted to eliminate the possibility of any problems towing, that the right hitch could eliminate. There are just too many accolades for the ProPride to ignore the value. That was how I made my decision. I doubt that I will ever regret the decision because I will not be using any other hitch.
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The fact that the priciest hitch gets consistently good accolades is not surprising or necessarily revelatory

Consider this analogy.

Within the practice of medicine - we know that higher cost treatments (including placebos) tend to carry a higher incidence of subjective positive outcomes.....

And to use a hyperbolic example - people buy and use homeopathy (IE water drops on a sugar tablet sold for $$$$) - 5 billion per year in sales in the US ad people that use it swear by it.

Not meant to be an offensive analogy - but I am always weary of people's reports on this all - after all - if we say "well there has to be something to all the accolades of propride users" then we can also on that logic say "there has to be something to all those 'brand x' hitch users saying they do very very good with their hitch"

To be clear I am undecided still and contemplating....in the end I may indeed make a "gut" decision - but that does not inspire much confidence really - but what other choice is there.

There is historical precedent - examples of droves I people that claim x product/service/drug is clearly superior and with basic well controlled research those conventions melted away...

I will have to go with my "gut" then I suppose :/
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