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Old 06-28-2013, 07:17 AM   #15
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3. The propride is easier to adjust. A few turns of the WD jacks and you can redistribute the load. It's also much quieter to hook-up. The equalizer bars 'snap' into place with a considerable noise. What? You don't "snap" the bars into place. They slide onto the L brackets with minimal effort. I don't know how you were hooking up your Equalizer but there is no snapping done. And there is certainly no "considerable noise" when attaching the bars.
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The EQ hitch comes with a lever for lifting the bars and 'snapping' them into place. It's there to speed up the hitch process. Depending on the amount of travel in your tongue jack and the overall set-up, it should be possible to lift the trailer + TV high enough to slide the bars into place and avoid this issue. But on my previous set-up this was not always practical.

The Eq hitch is certainly creates more noise at low speed while turning. The hitch relies on friction to control sway - this friction results in noise while turning. It can be reduced with grease, and I believe there are plastic runners that can be installed on the 'L' brackets.

I've always wondered however how much the grease and other measures reduce the effectiveness of sway control.


On additional negative on the propride - on the Safari Bunkhouse with the front storage door, the WD jacks interfere with the opening of the door. With the jacks mounted as far forward as I can, the door only opens about 60%.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:28 AM   #16
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I've towed both set-ups in high winds. The propride is superior. The entire unit is extremely stable. With the equializer you can feel the trailer pull the TV from side to side. I never felt unsafe - but the propride is just better.

Perhaps you felt your big white box swaying from side to side and that could have been caused by many things. My Airstream tows very nicely behind my TV and has done so for many thousands of miles, in high winds, rain, traffic and as we went up and came down some rather steep mountain passes. I think if you would check with many who tow an Airstream using an Equalizer you would find that swaying "from side to side" just doesn't happen..
As noted in my post, I indicated that the Eq hitch was effective at controlling sway. Even in very high winds, or when getting passed by buses, etc - the sway control worked.

But the propride towing the airstream is more stable in my opinion.

The OP asked about real world experience with hitches - these are my experiences. I'm not relaying what I have heard from others.

In the interest of full disclosure however as stated at beginning of my post - the Eq hitch was on a mini-van pulling a 20' SOB while the Propride was on an F150 pulling an AS. A number of variables where changed between the experiments. I had towed the SOB with my truck - but not in enough difficult conditions to formulate an option as to how much the TV impacted the feel of towing.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:04 AM   #17
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......spent on a capable TV and Airstream.

Is it now time to consider anything but the best hitch?

I submit not. Believe me, you won't regret getting the best.

If you haven't used a PPP system the benefits are still hidden for you.

Safety first for your Family and fellow travelers.

1000lb bars & a PPP Hitch.

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Old 06-28-2013, 08:40 AM   #18
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Hitches conform to the price/performance concept. More money does buy a marginally better hitch. That's the good news. I suppose it can be divided into 3 basic categories.

1. Non weight distributing - $ - very poor choice and unsafe for a large trailer

2. Weight distributing with bars - $$ - very good performance, safe

3. Forward projecting WD hitch - $$$ - best performance, highest price

In general these hitch discussion end up describing money as if it grows on trees. People issue aphorisms like "buy the best and be safe." Sure, but what if you just don't have $4500 lying around? Not everyone does, you know? I didn't, for example.

I found the " middle ground" at $650 for an Equal-I-zer was the best I could do at the time of purchase. It worked great for about 15,000 miles so far, it was safe, and I could afford it. Now, 2 years later, I have recovered from the initial expense involved in buying a big trailer and outfitting my tow car, so I can now MOVE UP to a better hitch, and get a little better performance.

I know for some people $4500 is lunch money. But we should acknowledge that such is not the case for many people. Some of the people who have the most expensive hitch give the impression that anyone choosing less is an idiot endangering the entire driving public. Simply not true.

Reese and EQ sell the bulk of all hitches. And, these are safe and effective. No one should feel foolish choosing one. The high-end hitches are better, and if money is no object, why not get one? But if money is an object don't be AFRAID of choosing an EQ or Reese and enjoying a nice safe ride with your trailer and your family. You are not evil, or stupid.

And finally, the technical issue of the EQ 1000# bars being "too stiff for an AS trailer" is controversial. It should not be taken as settled fact. It's an opinion of some people. I happen to think it is misguided, but this is not the place for that discussion.

Enjoy your trailer.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #19
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A ProPride for your trailer (1400# bars) sells for $2495.

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Reese and EQ sell the bulk of all hitches. And, these are safe and effective. No one should feel foolish choosing one. The high-end hitches are better, and if money is no object, why not get one? But if money is an object don't be AFRAID of choosing an EQ or Reese and enjoying a nice safe ride with your trailer and your family. You are not evil, or stupid.


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Well said, mstephens - including your last line :-)

I don't know what the $4500 refers to, however. I know there are different configurations but the PP is closer to $2500 (maybe the HA is in that higher range? Don't know...).

Regardless of that detail, I think your summary in the snippet quoted above is absolutely spot on!
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Well said, mstephens - including your last line :-)

I don't know what the $4500 refers to, however. I know there are different configurations but the PP is closer to $2500 (maybe the HA is in that higher range? Don't know...).

Regardless of that detail, I think your summary in the snippet quoted above is absolutely spot on!
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$4500?.... Where exactly did that figure come from?
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I bought my '27FB International CCD new last year from AS Northwest in Portland. Without too much effort I was able to negotiate a free Equalizer hitch. I full-time and have about 10k tow miles since purchase paired to my 2012 F150 (ecoboost). I have not experienced any problems at all. Perhaps PP and Hensley are "better", but that does not mean Equalizer is bad or unsafe in my mind.

Hitching and unhitching is incredibly easy. I check torque on all hitch bolts prior to every tow (just like checking
tire pressure and truck/trailer lug bolts) and have had no issues at all.

Just because you can spend more does not mean doing so is necessary, especially if you are able to secure a hitch for free or significantly reduced versus MSRP.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:18 PM   #23
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If it works and it is safe for use - at this juncture in my life there are budget concerns believe it or not

Now in 2018 when student loans are gone I'll have 4 new money trees in the backyard

I need to keep as much money in my pocket now to enjoy more so the expense of travel in the coming years!

Now if the argument is that the EQ or Reese or eaz-lift etc are unsafe or perhaps "significantly less safe" or "not reaching an acceptable safety threshold" then I would shell it out....seems like we have equal amounts of anecdote here either way - with few saying the lower cost alternatives are a "bad idea". - complaints seem more of noise and technicalities of hookup - important distinctions for sure though....
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:20 PM   #24
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What about backing in my trailer over front yard and it would be a bit off camber? Would that damage anything??
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No, side tilt (camber????) relative to the TV, unless severe has no damaging affect on the hitch, etc. If in doubt, release the spring bars.

Since budget is a concern, I'd recommend the Reese dual cam. It is still my go to back up hitch. It is a fine setup.
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"off camber"

I picked the phrase up while talking to off road folks

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/180668-off-camber/

It is not severely tilted but I guess I will take off these "springs" you speak of in case

My guess is that the left side will end up perhaps 2 feet higher than the right for about 12 ish feet
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Yeah, I'd just loosen up the spring bars and back it on in.
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I have no backup camera but Carmax will install aftermarket option (like a gps looking screen) for 450 bucks - have not researche other options yet myself

My budget....hmmm....not sure - but would include put to cost of propride if I feel it is truly warranted or highly desirable. How much for Hensley? How much for "Reese dual cam"? Equalizer I understand is a few hundred?
You can get a less expensive backup camera at a car audio store- about $225.
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