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Old 03-14-2014, 01:36 PM   #29
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Thanks for the replies, sounds like it is definitely workable. After some research, I have decided to go with the Propride 3P. My dealer told me when I bought the trailer that I would probably not need sway control, and that I should pull without it at first and if I had any problems to come back and see him! So, on that advise, I have pulled this trailer for almost 30K miles from one side of the Country to the other with a Reese load leveling hitch without any sway control. I never once in 30K miles had any problems or situations where I felt uncomfortable pulling the airstream. I assumed the dealer was right and that because it was an airstream I did not have to worry about it. However, I recently had an incident where I was passing a large load on a semi, and for the first time got into a fishtail situation and I felt that I was not in full control. I got off of the gas and manually applied the trailer brakes and she straightened right up, thank God! I might have been gullible at first to believe that dealer, but I don't usually make the same mistake twice, so I will be ordering my new sway eliminating hitch! I post this in case there are newbies out there as gullible as I was!
However, the fact that I was able to go that long without incident I believe is also a testament to the design of our silver beauties. Either that or a testament to my own dumb luck!!?

Happy trailering, and if you guys have any pics with your hatches down and showing the location of your jack towers, I would appreciate seeing them!
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:42 PM   #30
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The door isn't down in this pic, but you can see if you drop it, it falls behind the jacks.

Good luck!
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:55 PM   #31
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Count me in for one more for the ProPride team. We are scheduled to pick our very first Airstream (FC 25fb) around the end of April and safety was a major factor in investing in the right hitch from the start.

After shopping around for awhile and doing plenty of research on these forums (and by plenty, I mean months!) I had it narrowed down to either the Hensley or the PP. After speaking with both companies on the phone, it was an absolute no brainer. Sean runs a business the way businesses used to be run. The right way. Answering the phone, returning calls within hours, if not minutes, and patiently answer even the smallest of questions.

While we have yet to tow with it, I am a happy customer already.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:44 PM   #32
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What is the "another Airstream I want worse"?
Looking forward to pics of it.
The trailer you are getting rid of resembles my trailer.
I have decided to hold out for a ProPride hitch because there is no drilling into the a-frame.
I really like the looks of those rock tamers.
M.Hony,

The deed is done and I can exhale now. In anticipation, I ordered a Class V stinger from PP....2.5" x 2.5"...definitely a massive chunk of metal. Sean had it in stock and it shipped the next day.











After getting such a good deal on it, I wasn't really in a position to gripe too much about issues, if any. After doing a "systems" check on everything, I was pleased to find out everything worked. That being said, the water pump was making some noise (vibration between the fluid end and power end of the pump)...so I just replaced it.



Other than that, the furnace seems to be running a little "rich". Everything else works fine including the solar panels and tank monitors. It came with two new batteries and six new tires. Should start installing the PP on it tonight.

Yes, I'm a happy camper now as I never thought I would find one of these on the market much less at a reasonable price. I'm loving it so far. It's a rolling man-cave and I have big plans for it.

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Old 03-20-2014, 01:55 PM   #33
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Have you had a chance to haul motorcycles in it yet?
Dude! You got a Panamerica!
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:37 PM   #34
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Have you had a chance to haul motorcycles in it yet?
Dude! You got a Panamerica!
Yes...that is what I was thinking! By design, this isn't any big family rig...just a man and his machines.

No, I haven't hauled a bike in it yet...I had it delivered and have since been going through it checking everything out. I pulled the PP off the Classic so it's partially assembled and won't take long to install on the PA. Then, I'll get the my stinger reconfigured with the new Class V bit and adjusted.

I'm ordering another anchoring strip to install between the two existing and a means to hold the front wheels (rig up where I can remove if not hauling bikes). The amount of space in the garage (although it came at a premium new) is unbelievable. Mine did not come with the pull-down screen to cover the hatch but I intend to find one to utilize that space when the bike is unloaded.

I think I can haul two Wings in it (1,850 lbs.) or three Triumphs (1,350 lbs.) but I got to get finished on the basic trailer before I can start play too much in the back. Most of the time, it will only be hauling one bike. I've got a bike function to go to Saturday in near Jasper, TX (campground about 3 miles from the event) but I don't know if I'm going to have everything sorted by then. Probably will just ride the bike to and from.

Just got back from a pretty good ride this past Saturday based out of Jacksonville, FL (start & finish for the ride).






1,512 miles in 21 hours. & 21 minutes. Four bonus locations and four gas stops...and pulled trailers.



See...I need the Pan America in my line of ...uh....play.

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Old 03-20-2014, 03:48 PM   #35
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I love your Pan America! I have always wanted one. I have absolutely no need for one. I have just always wanted one because they are so cool.

I really like seeing your pictures and hearing about it. You might consider starting a Pan America thread here on the Forums to chronicle your adventures in the Behemoth.

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Once in 2006 when I was working in Jacksonville I went on a charity ride that went across 7 bridges and all over Duvall county. There was a bike night every Wednesday at a restaurant next to the motel.
I also went to a Biketoberfest in Daytona that year.
I didn't have such a fancy rig to haul my bike in, though.
I would like to walk around in a Panamerica some day just to see how it is.
I guess you have a Class V hitch on your new Silverado 2500HD?
I attempted to buy a 34' Excella before I bought my Classic.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:59 PM   #37
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Is the hatch the same size as an Eddie Bauer hatch?
Will the Eddie Bauer screen work?
Probably not- the Eddie Bauer doesn't have the ramp portion of the floor, does it?
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:43 PM   #38
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Is the hatch the same size as an Eddie Bauer hatch?
Come to think of it, it may and would increase my odds of finding one...good tip that never crossed my mind.

As a motorcycle rider yourself, there is no excuse why you can't see one on the inside. As most posts on the PA topic covered, it hasn't got the storage space like a normal AS. All the goodies I had in the Classic, I temporarily put in the Signature until the PA was delivered. I transferred every thing that was in the Classic and all fit fine except my crawfish boiling pot which now resides in a lower bin in the garage. Having already shopped for this and that for the Classic, it didn't take long to get this one rigged out (chocks, hoses, pigtail adapters, silverware, utensils, lines, towels, etc.). In my eyes, it is perfect. Where the Classic had a rear bed, a dinette bed and couch bed, the PA just has the front bed & dinette bed. So I'm treating this as my own personal trailer. If its a family thing, we'll take the Signature.

I plan to do some mods in the back for my toy support items. Build aluminum racks for lawn chairs, portable fish fryer and bike lift, a dedicated spot for the generator when I don't want to haul it in the back of the truck, air compressor & volume tank. I want to be where I can do an oil change, charge a battery or fix a tire, if needed. I won't purposely add any more weight than "necessary" but up to a point, it won't hurt and may help. I just want a place for everything and everything in its place. I don't ever foresee hauling a kayak or snow skies in this rig...so I don't have any problem gearing it around my other addiction. There is plenty of space to either side (floor to ceiling) in the garage that can be used without encroaching on bike space. Its a blank canvas and its up to me to do something that is functional without being tacky. I'll design it in AutoCAD first and build from there.

This one is a keeper so nothing is too much trouble. I want to start with the little things at the front, middle and back all at the same time. The interior looks like it only saw limited use but there are some things on the exterior that need a little TLC...the pads on the stabilizer are rusty, the latch on the propane tank surround needs attention, it needs a good scrubbing and waxing. The exterior "shower" hose & nozzle are missing (uses a quick connector and curly-Q hose on this type). The furnace and hot water heater look like they would be happier with the SS replacements. All just tinkering stuff and I enjoy working on things I like anyway. I also foresee replacing the halogen interior lighting with LEDs for off the grid service.

Sorry to keep babbling on about this one but I'm excited and y'all are the only ones that can relate to where I'm coming from. Those that aren't Airstream people just look at them differently than us. I've got my (but not everybody's) ultimate Airstream and I am stoked. I still can't believe I found one on the market.

To keep the post related, I did start on installing the PP. Top shelf hitch on a top shelf trailer. As Moosetags indicated, I do need to start a thread the trailer and its upcoming adventures. There certainly isn't an abundance of information on them but being out of productions and in limited numbers, there isn't much point other than just entertainment.

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Have you towed it yet?
The 3 axle 34's are supposed to have good road manners.
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What a GREAT trailer!!!

Congrats!!

I too got the class 5 hitch from Sean. It's not easy to pick up :-) I just didn't want to use the sleeve.
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Wow. This is WAAaaay Cool!

Just cruising the hitch thread... hmmm, another PP and Hensley debate I figured... and like a crack of thunder - your pictures of the PanAmerica!

No wonder you kept it close to your vest! I'm happy just enjoying YOU being happy!

Congratulations!
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:38 PM   #42
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Have you towed it yet?
The 3 axle 34's are supposed to have good road manners.
M.Hony,

Other than shuttling it around on my property with my 3/4 ton Suburban...no WD bars...it squatted it pretty good...that's the extent of my towing so far. To get to my AS Docking Station, I have to go between two buildings (25' apart) and then swing a good left on fresh concrete to get into position to back into the slot. During the turn, the tires weren't flexing and gnawing to my surprise nor were there any tire marks on the concrete.

A female driver out of Shreveport (Hillbilly Haulers...I kid you not...$1.25 a mile and I've used them before) picked it up in her 1-ton (Clubcab with flat-bed) and towed it without any WD bars. She and her company haul a lot of travel trailers and she said it pull like a dream. She then hooked to the Classic (using the Hensley...luckily her receiver was in the right ballpark for the stinger drop) and headed to Memphis on the new owner's dime. I found the Classic had a relatively light tongue for that size trailer and towed as good as any trailer I've ever pulled and definitely better than the 28' Signature. One of the trailers had to go to make room for the PA and the Classic drew the short straw. If I have a third trailer, it will be an old Bambi.

I missed it earlier, yes the Silverado has a Class V hitch. I've been using a "bushing" down to 2 x 2 but that just provided for more slop and the greater potential for beating something out. At a tongue weight of 1,490, I guess if I'm ever going to need one, its now even with ballast in the back. I can hardly wait to tow it and think the Silverado is a good match for the trailer....both are bad boys and deserve each other.

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