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Old 05-11-2010, 05:25 AM   #43
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If I had know how awful the paint or powder coating was on the Hensley, that alone would have kept me from buying it. It's that bad.
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:40 AM   #44
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Hensley's design is not only a bunch of hardare but also much less effective then a strut bar. On top of that you have to reduce your trailer load because longer connection reduces effective tongue load and the less load you have the more prone you are to sway.
What longer connection? The above is incoherent and may be flat out wrong if I knew what you were attempting to say.


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That is again questionable argument. The benefit of a longer pivot point is minimal because the extension is too short to make asubstantial difference. You would have to extent the hitch at least 4 feet feet to actually feel any advantage. And again the longer the hitch the less load it can accept without reinforcement.
Again... what?



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It is a total overkill. Costly and pain to install and the benefits are questionable.

Check out this link there is a bunch of pictures of different solutions. Trailer Hitch Guide

One that got my attention is the one from Bloue Ox in the middle of the page but I have never tried it so can't say anything about it effects.

You've obviously never tried an Arrow or ProPride either but that didn't stop you from attempting to say something.

As for the overkill argument, your Airstream and tow vehicle are overkill for camping. Get an Amish buggy with a horse, throw a tent in the back of it, and take off camping. The "overkill" crowd likes to speak out of one logic about hitches while "overkilling" at least two other components with another logic. It gets comical sometimes. I've been accused of being a little weird at times but I do try to live, and act, congruently within a set of beliefs.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:04 AM   #45
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Hensley's design is not only a bunch of hardare but also much less effective then a strut bar. On top of that you have to reduce your trailer load because longer connection reduces effective tongue load and the less load you have the more prone you are to sway.




That is again questionable argument. The benefit of a longer pivot point is minimal because the extension is too short to make asubstantial difference. You would have to extent the hitch at least 4 feet feet to actually feel any advantage. And again the longer the hitch the less load it can accept without reinforcement.




It is a total overkill. Costly and pain to install and the benefits are questionable.

Check out this link there is a bunch of pictures of different solutions. Trailer Hitch Guide

One that got my attention is the one from Bloue Ox in the middle of the page but I have never tried it so can't say anything about it effects.

Boy, you sure like to make friends, when you join a new forum.

I am curious to know what background and experience caused you to come to these close to totally incorrect conclusions. A couple of your assertions appear to me to be based on a nearly complete lack of understanding of of how Hensley and ProPride hitches work.

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Old 05-11-2010, 10:20 AM   #46
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Need some input on the new Propride hitch. Who has purchased and do you have any pictures of installed product? Recently totaled my Airstream along with Hensley and I want to replace it and have some interest in Propride. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Hi Bob,

I can't give you a comparison of the two, however I bought the ProPride for my 31 Classic, and It has functioned exceeding well.

Here are some threads to check.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...-3p-51958.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ide-45987.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ide-57179.html

hope that helps,

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Hensley's design is not only a bunch of hardare but also much less effective then a strut bar. On top of that you have to reduce your trailer load because longer connection reduces effective tongue load and the less load you have the more prone you are to sway.
I have the Propride hitch and it works better than a "strut bar" hitch (by which I presume you mean the various friction and cam designs that are out there - Equalizer, Reese, etc). I think it's an excellent product for those trailer and tow vehicle combinations where sway is a factor.
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My understanding is that, both, Hensley and ProPride are designed by the same guy and use similar principles. I personally had not too great experience with propride 3p 1400 and some other people posted their experiences on youtube with Hensley
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:12 PM   #50
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It looks to me that the trailer brakes are not set strong enough in the video and the vehicle is handling the whole thing.(Carrying the weight of the Airstream.)

I could be wrong though but that is how I have mine set up.Trailer brakes stronger than vehicle brakes.
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Jimbo what was your bad experience with the PPPPP?

There have been widespread reports of side-to-side movement during heavy breaking ("hensley bump") when the trailer brakes are not working properly or are being applied late by the controller (or, with disc brakes, due to delays in bringing the pressure up in the hydraulic system due to poor bleeding or a badly designed actuator). There are a number of threads on that topic.

I have the MaxBrake. I have the PPPPP. The whole thing works great. It's easy to hitch, easy to unhitch, easy to back, turns the way I expect, and there's no sway. I don't believe that the HAHA produces much different results (except it's maybe a little harder to hitch up), but the price, paint, and approach to warranty service set the two apart..
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here's the SHORT VERSION (my view ne way) ...

-jimbo purchased/tried a haha towing a 32 ft trailer (hopefully NOT with that toyota in the profile)

-using a PENDULUM brake controller not properly adjusted he felt the PUSH/BUMP...

-had his mate drive and SAW the action at the hitch head (side2side) with FORWARD movement of the trailer tongue...

-had a DEbate with the haha people, who suggested ADJUSTING the brake controller.

-made the videos (with the brake controller INTENTIONALLY not properly adjusted) and sent them to hensley.

((and it appears the rig is TURNING while the brakes are applied TO the tow vehicle))

-shipped the hitch back and got his money back.
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then posted ALL of this on his rv (buymywaterfilter) blog....
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so this is a GREAT VIDEO showing EXACTLY what happens withOUT an adequate brake controller...

OR without adequate trailer brakes.

as posted elsewhere this is AN EARLY WARNING SYSTEM that no other hitch design provides...

it's a SIGNAL to fix the brakes or the controller!

towing on the ball he would have NO CLUE to the inadequacy of the trailer braking equipment.

until being PUSHED into an intersection or OVER the edge of a cliff...(braking in the turns=very BAD idea)
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so in other words ANY bump/push/clank/rattle when stopping is a BONUS feature from these contraptions...

READ posts #9, 11 and 29 here for exactly HOW the push lead to finding a brake issue...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ump-58101.html

lives saved maybe? ((i c a commercial here...)
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there ARE occasionally folks who simply don't like or cannot figure out how to use GREAT gadgets...

here's a couple of related threads and a NEW hitch suggestion for jimbo from another member who had issues with the haha...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...per-23541.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ddy-18970.html

and a recent thread with links...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...tch-60412.html

the haha is not the first product that had those USER issues...

how many here NEVER figured out how to the set the clock in a vcr?

somebody got a MEtube video of clock setting gone awry?

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Old 05-11-2010, 06:50 PM   #53
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".... but I do try to live, and act, congruently within a set of beliefs.
THAT, with a quality product and a sound reputation is what makes me willing to reach into my wallet and pull out the bucks.

When "yes dear" gives me her blessing, and she will, I will likely be buying one of your ProPride hitches. For now, my Equalizer will have to do (I'm still in the OMG I spent a gob of money mode.. LOL), but in our 38 years, she has come to know that I am in a perpetual "upgrade mode". Heck, when I met her I was upgrading and going overkill at the same time... it worked out well. LOL

Sean, thank you for taking my "after business hours" call the other day and allowing this rookie to go on, and on, and on with my very basic questions.....
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What Jimbo failed to show, was what happened after using the Hensley...

Watch Blowing Up The Trailer Video | Break.com
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What Jimbo failed to show, was what happened after using the Hensley...

Watch Blowing Up The Trailer Video | Break.com
Another, "hold my beer and watch this" moment.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:00 PM   #56
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I personally had not too great experience with propride 3p 1400
Why haven't I heard about this, Jimbo?

What was/is your issue?

It's very simple. If you don't have a great experience with me, or the product, you GET EVERY PENNY YOU PAID BACK.

On the other hand, if you are not being completely truthful, I am starting to wonder who exactly you are.


(P.S.- I've been reading and responding to internet posts about these hitches, in various places, for almost 14 years. I'm pretty good at sniffing out comments that don't really hold water and are grinding a proverbial axe for reasons unknown to me.)

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