Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-03-2009, 03:37 PM   #15
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
Quote:
Originally Posted by rluhr View Post
...Also, my apologies...
no need rich.

getting the original first person reports is the prime objective.

learning happens and better understanding matters more 4 me than being right or wrong.

victory is fleeting but SCARS last 4ever!

good stuff really !

cheers
2air

on edit, the OP has another recent thread that may be useful,

especially for rossfam' or others being PUSHED or BUMPED in the curves...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f439...art-58070.html

and the report that marshall rog' experienced PAIN is all the more reason to read it....
__________________

__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 02:37 AM   #16
Be Calm, Have a Cupcake
 
Secguru's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Houston , Texas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 223
Images: 1
Thanks for the excellent comments...

Thanks both to 2air who always has something worthwhile to say and also to rluhr who did not hijack the post but added a very valuable extra dimension to it. I have also been thinking about changing my brakes to disk. I noted that there are several good posts on that topic. For those interested in this topic (including me), one such post is: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f206...kes-57501.html

Be kind to everyone,
Secguru
__________________

__________________
Secguru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 07:54 PM   #17
2 Rivet Member
 
Ben4762's Avatar
 
1989 32' Excella
Lawrenceville , Georgia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 59
It is possible to experience the Hensley bump even if your brake controller is set properly. I usually downshift my transmission when going down a steep grade and sometimes there is no need to apply brakes. The travel trailer will be free wheeling and the Hensley will bump. This could create some handling problems if it happened on a curve in the road.
__________________
Ben4762 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 08:41 PM   #18
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
ben...

DOWNSHIFTing to slow, IN ANY CURVE is an issue while towing.

even with "on the BALL towing" the trailer will still PUSH forward.

IF this happens while using a haha it's a signal to NOT do that again.

1. SLOW (brake/shift) before the curve
2. TURN (without braking or shifting) in the curve
3. ACCELERATE (or SLOW more) after the curve

downshifting or using an EXHAUST brake can be a problem towing with ANY hitch...

IF the speed, grade, curve or deceleration CHANGE is significant.

bump = WARNING to do something different.
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 09:57 PM   #19
2 Rivet Member
 
Ben4762's Avatar
 
1989 32' Excella
Lawrenceville , Georgia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman View Post
ben...

DOWNSHIFTing to slow, IN ANY CURVE is an issue while towing.

even with "on the BALL towing" the trailer will still PUSH forward.

IF this happens while using a haha it's a signal to NOT do that again.

1. SLOW (brake/shift) before the curve
2. TURN (without braking or shifting) in the curve
3. ACCELERATE (or SLOW more) after the curve

downshifting or using an EXHAUST brake can be a problem towing with ANY hitch...

IF the speed, grade, curve or deceleration CHANGE is significant.

bump = WARNING to do something different.
I think you missed the point I was trying to make in my post. The Hensley can bump on a straight away going down hill while using the transmission for braking. If it bumps in a curve it can cause handling problems. Some people with new Hensley's may not be aware of this. I don't brake in a curve. I've owned this hitch for 10 years.
__________________
Ben4762 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 10:05 PM   #20
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
and it appears you missed THE point...

ANY hitch can push on a straight way going down hill while using the transmission for braking. If it pushes in a curve it can cause handling problems.

EVERYONE towing needs to be aware of this.

and only the haha/pp give a CLUE that PUSH is happening.

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 10:22 PM   #21
2 Rivet Member
 
Ben4762's Avatar
 
1989 32' Excella
Lawrenceville , Georgia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman View Post
and it appears you missed THE point...

ANY hitch can push on a straight way going down hill while using the transmission for braking. If it pushes in a curve it can cause handling problems.

EVERYONE towing needs to be aware of this.

and only the haha/pp give a CLUE that PUSH is happening.

cheers
2air'
You just don't get it. The added bump that you get from a Hensley is different from just being pushed when using another type hitch. The bump can cause handling problems going down hill.
__________________
Ben4762 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 10:28 PM   #22
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben4762 View Post
You just don't get it. The added bump that you get from a Hensley is different from just being pushed when using another type hitch. The bump can cause handling problems going down hill.
and the PUSH by an hitch can cause handling problems going down hill.

that's the GET part.

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 10:38 PM   #23
2 Rivet Member
 
Ben4762's Avatar
 
1989 32' Excella
Lawrenceville , Georgia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman View Post

and the PUSH by an hitch can cause handling problems going down hill.



cheers
2air'
but a "bump" along with a push causes additional problems. GOT IT?
__________________
Ben4762 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 05:25 AM   #24
Vintage Kin
 
slowmover's Avatar
 
Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,577
Images: 1
And it's still a TRAILER braking problem.
__________________
1990 35' Silver Streak Sterling; 9k GVWR.
2004 DODGE Cummins 305/555; 6-manual; 9k GVWR.
Hensley Arrow. 9-cpm solo, 15-cpm towing
Sold: Silver Streak Model 3411
slowmover is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 07:46 AM   #25
Rivet Master
 
SteveH's Avatar
 
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,311
I've not towed very much with the PP, but for what it's worth, I've not experienced any "bumps".
__________________
SteveH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 08:08 AM   #26
30' 1999 Excella
 
Tin Diesel's Avatar
 
Kingwood , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 250
Images: 4
Send a message via Yahoo to Tin Diesel
Bump is a problem for us

We have a 30' Excella towed by a 2006 F250 PSD, using the HAHA (which we love). We have disc brakes that were retrofitted in April 2008 by David Tidmore at Roger Williams Airstream... but it was one of the last jobs he did before leaving.

We get the bump everytime unless I pre-apply a little bit of brake pressure. My efforts to correct it are detailed here: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f439...ade-41447.html

We run with the brake controller set at 10. At that setting, I am unable to get those huge disk brakes to lock up even when I'm doing 10 mph. I am convinced its the interaction of the 2006 Ford brake controller with the activator. David said its a software problem.

Unfortunately, David left before we could address the issue. I don't mean to hijack this thread, but if anybody else has faced (and fixed) this problem, please let me know.
__________________
Hey, its the only way to be sure!
Tin Diesel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 09:17 AM   #27
2 Rivet Member
 
Ben4762's Avatar
 
1989 32' Excella
Lawrenceville , Georgia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by REDNAX View Post
And it's still a TRAILER braking problem.
If you are towing on level terrain and you are getting the Hensley bump when you stop it is definitely a Trailer braking problem. If you tow on hilly terrain or in the mountains sooner or later you will feel the Hensley bump. This is caused by down shifting the transmission on the tow vehicle. The tow vehicle slows when you down shift, but not the trailer. The Hensley shifts either to the right or left and you feel the bump.
__________________
Ben4762 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 11:45 AM   #28
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Diesel View Post
...We run with the brake controller set at 10. At that setting, I am unable to get those huge disk brakes to lock up even when I'm doing 10 mph. I am convinced its the interaction of the 2006 Ford brake controller with the activator...
hi tin

craftsman HERE has the 2006 with ITBC and had issues UNTIL upgrading to the larger reservoir (ver.2) of the actibrake.

i see you'll already got that version.

my thought would be in the WIRING/install.

did david set the voltage at something LESS than full voltage (he did this on richL's trailer) ???

see the post earlier in this thread about that...
__________

the ford controller is NORMALLY set to scale back voltage with REALLY slow speeds.

so IF THAT is combined with a controller install (on the trailer side) with lower voltage,

the 2 together may be limiting the availability of FULL power.

that's just a wag on my part.
__________

some1 should explore the wiring/install with a voltmeter, along with the wiring/schematics and determine how much juice is flowing.

and given actibrake is no longer in the biz, u might be better off long term installing a different controller/reservoir.

have u contacted kodiak to see what system THEY recommend now?

good luck.

2air'
__________________

__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hensley or Propride rochar3 Hitches, Couplers & Balls 88 04-02-2017 12:05 AM
HELP!!! Hensley vs ProPride 3P sempi2 Hitches, Couplers & Balls 91 12-08-2014 10:43 PM
Bump Your Head Yet? ArveeBob Base Camp 26 05-22-2010 12:06 AM
Hensley with Propride adjustable stinger boondockdad Hitches, Couplers & Balls 5 12-03-2008 08:55 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.