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Old 05-23-2015, 07:09 AM   #41
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Also note that installing a Hensley requires holes in the A frame for bolts. No drilling with ProPride install. It just uses U-bolts. Easy to install, IMHO.
I prefer a more solid through bolted connection as well as a welded non adjustable stinger. The more solid the connection between tow vehicle and trailer the better, in my opinion.
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Old 05-23-2015, 07:26 AM   #42
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I prefer a more solid through bolted connection as well as a welded non adjustable stinger. The more solid the connection between tow vehicle and trailer the better, in my opinion.
I found that I was able to improve towing characteristics by taking the slop out of the stinger where it is inserted into the receiver. I placed some welds inside of the receiver to get rid of the up/down, side to side movement. I put beads inside. Front and rear floor and a side. There is no more rattle from the hitch area and the trailer tracks much straighter. This has also helped when towing my utility trailer. The adjustable stinger is extremely solid otherwise.
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Old 05-24-2015, 12:54 AM   #43
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If it gets sloppy I'll swipe that idea. Interestingly, I just changed TV to a somewhat taller one. Now I'm again glad I picked a ProPride--take out the big wrench, and fix the height in a few minutes of grunt work that is basically free...


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Old 05-24-2015, 01:07 PM   #44
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, I just changed TV to a somewhat taller one. Now I'm again glad I picked a ProPride--take out the big wrench, and fix the height in a few minutes of grunt work that is basically free...


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As my trailer will change height and the truck go to its third hitch receiver, it's why I bought an adjustable stinger for the HA. Someday it'll be done and I can do an exchange and cut that to fit the tightest.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:26 AM   #45
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I'm in the market for either hitch (PP OR HAHA) used. Following this conversation.
Thank you for all of the comments.
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Old 05-28-2015, 06:37 AM   #46
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palmtreegirl,
Propride does sell some refurbished models which is probably a good deal. They are listed on ebay or call Sean.
From time to time there are used Ha,Ha's that come up for sale. Prices vary.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:20 AM   #47
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Yep. Ditto on that. You get an up front price on PP and the right WD bar rating is a phone call to Sean. No BS.

One of the big reasons I went with PP over Hensley was the lack of 'flinch' pricing with PP. straight answers and NO sales BS. I did not like the way Hensley was sold and oversold to me.


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I could not agree more. That's coming from a previous owner of a Hensley on a previous AS many years ago. When it was time to get a hitch for my Classic 30 I spoke with both Hensley and Shawn @ PP and the difference in approach and salesmanship went to Shawn @ Pro Pride. I really appreciate my PP.

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Old 05-31-2015, 05:15 PM   #48
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Ditto. Talked to both vendors. Liked the design details of the ProPride better, lack of holes to drill in the A-frame, and the adjustable stinger sold it for me.

Did NOT appreciate the hard sell and push for a sales close games Hensley tried to pull at all. I'm an engineer. I deal in facts, not sales droid BS and obfuscation.

I'm also impressed by how easy it is to install and adjust the PP. A little tuning and experimenting and it's just right fit the AS and TV combo. Pulled over 8,000 miles the first two trips through all kinds of conditions, and the only issue I had was with my tow mirrors getting loose in the wind across Texas...AS followed like a faithful puppy.


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Old 05-31-2015, 05:40 PM   #49
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Funny. The exact opposite happened to me. When talking to PP they were into the bashing HA mode and that really turned me off. But that was several years. Things have settled down a bit. I too am an engineer and I didn't like the PP new yoke design compared to the HA strut bars. It is important that the head not have any rotational play and the yoke design looked to me to be more apt for that to happen. Now I didn't do any real world tests, that was just my observation comparing the two designs and only my opinion. I also like the HA simple stinger design versus the PP adjustable contraption. HA customer service has always been excellent as I'm sure PP is also. Both are good hitches and you can't go wrong with either.
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Old 05-31-2015, 06:12 PM   #50
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If properly set up, the PP yoke has no slop in it to speak of. But it does need to be checked for wear which is easy to do. It can be readily adjusted out.


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Old 05-31-2015, 06:47 PM   #51
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Checked out PP and Hensley

Found no high pressure at Hensley

Will buy back if not satisfied

Excellent customer service

Makes towing my 30 ft Classic a dream

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Old 06-01-2015, 06:59 AM   #52
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I also checked out both last year. I went with Hensley Arrow for a number of reasons. I received excellent information and customer service from Hensley and never once had any high pressure sales applied to me. I feel the HA is a much better design than the PP and worth the difference in price.
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:38 AM   #53
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I decided on a refurb Swift-Arrow from Hensley. Terry was so helpful. It will be here tomorrow or the next day at the latest. Looking forward to installing and trying it.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:20 AM   #54
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Installed Refurbished Hitch

Here is some pictures of the new hitch on my tow vehicle/trailer. Personally, I think the drawbar is too low causing the trailer not to be level.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:27 AM   #55
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you might have too much drop on that stinger...

sharp looking rig!
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:08 AM   #56
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Question on storage with PP or HA. My AS is stored indoors and they use a forklift with a ball to move. How do you deal with issues like this?
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:24 PM   #57
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I think it's to much drop on the hitch from the pictures, we have the opposite issue with our Hensley.
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Old 07-11-2015, 05:07 PM   #58
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Call Hensley. They'll guide you on where to measure and to get the right stinger.
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Old 07-11-2015, 05:23 PM   #59
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That looks like an 8" drop hitch bar in the photo. When it's real low like that, it tends to bottom out in driveways much more often.

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That is clearly the wrong drop bar. I assume you have already changed it.
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