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02-13-2013, 01:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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Thanks to Pahaska for posting this. Very much a confidence builder to know that my PP3P can handle this kind of an extreme. I did some high wind stuff last summer (trust me, I didn't LOOK for this)....and was amazed at how solid my rig felt. Truly believe that buying this hitch was the smartest thing I did when I made the choice...
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"SilverLeaf II" 2015 30' Classic
2019 RAM 2500 Limited 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
ProPride 3P
AIR# 58452
WBCCI # 3430-Unit 21
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02-13-2013, 02:23 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 27' FB International
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 445
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boondockdad
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Thanks for sharing your great post!! I know we made the right choice with the Hensley! I have heard great things about ProPride also.
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02-13-2013, 04:05 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 26' Overlander
Gold Bar
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
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Sounds like as long as we go with the Pro or Hensley we will be happy. We don't get many high winds around here, except for in the winter, so I'm not too worried about that. But anything to make it a little bit safer to pull is a plus.
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1964 Overlander pulled by 1985 diesel Suburban 3/4 ton 4x4 w/ 4" lift & 35" tires.
Also: 2008 Sebring convertible; Camaros: 83 Z28, 78 Z28, 78 (7 yr olds); Trucks: 67 Suburban, 63 Chevy 1/2 ton (10 yr olds), 60 GMC 305 v6
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02-13-2013, 05:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crispyboy
Boondockdad,
Enjoyed reading your blog, nice detailed report. I have also had similar experiences with the HAHA in the ease of use, towing confidence and of course worn parts. I purchased my hitch used so I am my own warranty station. The hitch has a lot of miles on it. This winter I am welding some pieces of steel to the inside and outside of the orange head where the strut bars attach. The metal was wearing thin and the holes were egg shaped. I will post some before and after pics when I get the job finished.
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Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Our Arrow had the same bend... there's just a little metal holding that strut bar bolt. It looked like ours bent when I folded the strut bar- it doesn't take any forces, otherwise. Dennis(? factory rep) looked at it, took a hammer, and knocked it flat. Hasn't been an issue, since.
Happy trails!
-Joe
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02-13-2013, 05:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travel Bird
Thanks for sharing your great post!! I know we made the right choice with the Hensley! I have heard great things about ProPride also.
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You're welcome! Thanks for visiting!
I'm sure there is, or will be, a long term review on the PP.
See you down the road!
-Joe
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02-13-2013, 05:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,655
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If you keep the strut bars tight under compression (screwing the adjustments OUT or LENGTHENING the struts) rather than under tension (screwing IN or shrotening the struts) you get the same rigid effect required for the struts, but none of the wear on that thin area. It will still wear, but on the forward edge of the pin hole where there is a lot of meat.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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02-13-2013, 05:30 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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The Hensley and the ProPride are products of the same inventor. Given that Hensley had about 18 years after the original patent to think about the design, it was a no-brainer for me to pick the ProPride.
As a retired inventor, I know how the passage of time brings up a lot of "Why didn't I do that in the first place." thoughts. The ProPride requires no holes in the a-frame and is easier to hitch up, especially at an angle. The adjustable stinger saved me a lot of trouble when my original calculations were off a bit.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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02-13-2013, 05:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pahaska
The Hensley and the ProPride are products of the same inventor. Given that Hensley had about 18 years after the original patent to think about the design, it was a no-brainer for me to pick the ProPride.
As a retired inventor, I know how the passage of time brings up a lot of "Why didn't I do that in the first place." thoughts. The ProPride requires no holes in the a-frame and is easier to hitch up, especially at an angle. The adjustable stinger saved me a lot of trouble when my original calculations were off a bit.
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Terry at Hensley told me the PP was an original prototype of the Arrow. They had built and tested it, and found it lacking. He said one of the problems was with the jack assemblies, the higher attachment point created a longer moment arm, and was prone to failure.
Don't flame the messenger. I've never even seen a PP, in person.
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02-13-2013, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,655
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Guys, there has been, I believe, a long history of mud slinging and bad feelings with the "divorce" of the folks involved in this invention. I think we should let failure reports on public forums speak for themselves.....not much either way.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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02-13-2013, 06:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Guys, there has been, I believe, a long history of mud slinging and bad feelings with the "divorce" of the folks involved in this invention. I think we should let failure reports on public forums speak for themselves.....not much either way.
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Oh, I thought this was a thread about the PP and Arrow design
If you want to put a moderator hat on, how about providing a link to some of that 'discussion'?
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02-13-2013, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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I always put a great deal of weight on negative statements made by business people about their primary competition.
Ken
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02-13-2013, 08:52 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag&Au
I always put a great deal of weight on negative statements made by business people about their primary competition.
Ken
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Well said. My sentiments exactly.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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02-13-2013, 09:54 PM
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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The pros and cons of the two hitches has gone on for years - both are very good products and do their jobs well...
Can you imagin, someone with a multiple personality disorder shopping for one of these...?
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WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
The trouble with trouble is it always starts out as fun...
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02-13-2013, 11:10 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxon
The pros and cons of the two hitches has gone on for years - both are very good products and do their jobs well...
Can you imagin, someone with a multiple personality disorder shopping for one of these...?
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Sometimes I think there may be some of those people here?
The good thing about Hensley and ProPride is that they are expensive enough that you better be happy with whichever you have.
Ken
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02-14-2013, 04:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Is it so wrong that I love my Hensley?
I can't help it, that's how god made me.
Actually, I'm going to start actively lobbying my representative for legislation to mandate that everyone must submit to using a PPP hitch.
Hensley Pride!
Pro Pride!
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02-14-2013, 06:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 25' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,720
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I have watched this thread (and others on this subject) for a while now. Sometime I will post about the reasons I changed from an Equalizer to a ProPride hitch as the process was an interesting one. For now let me say that after the first time I towed with my new ProPride hitch I knew I had made the right choice. All I will say for now is Wow!
The only bad advice I got from the dealer when we purchased new was on what hitch to buy!
I chose ProPride in the end as Sean was simply amazing. From no additional cost custom mounts (had to get around my modified battery box) to much question answering he was just the best.
The difference is simply amazing!
Bruce
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03-15-2013, 02:40 PM
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Rio Rancho
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 3
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My experience with the PP hitch and the company management has not been good. The hitch doesn't work and it sits useless in my garage. Can't send it back and can't get a response from management.
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03-15-2013, 03:13 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slicer
My experience with the PP hitch and the company management has not been good. The hitch doesn't work and it sits useless in my garage. Can't send it back and can't get a response from management.
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What do you mean, "It doesn't work?" This sounds like the problem is you, not the hitch.
I just towed about 500 miles in the gusty crosswinds last week and I could drive one-handed where our caravan leader, with many thousands of miles of towing, could hardly stay on the road with a conventional hitch. The PP paid for itself on that one trip.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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03-15-2013, 03:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2021 25' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,720
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I replaced our Equalizer hitch with a ProPride and could not be happier with both the help I received from the company with a difficult installation (resolved with custom jack brackets at no additional charge, thank you very much!) and with the resulting improvement in towing performance over the Equalizer.
I could not be happier!!!
Bruce
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03-15-2013, 03:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,655
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slicer
My experience with the PP hitch and the company management has not been good. The hitch doesn't work and it sits useless in my garage. Can't send it back and can't get a response from management.
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Make me a deal I cannot refuse.....please!
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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