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Old 08-11-2011, 12:05 PM   #71
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I removed my Hensley arrow from my 28' Safari while trying to sell the trailer. I used the Hensley with a Navigator and GMC 2500 HD over 7 years. The towing experience was outstanding (other than the 'bump'). I'm keeping the trailer and planning to outfit a new tow vehicle. We found the Hensley tricky to hitch and downright annoying to UN hitch. We had to remove the pin from the hitch receiver and it was 50/50 which would pull out first; the receiver or the Hensley. It was very sensitive to jack height when disconnecting or how level the site was. Also, the spring bar tension jacks always unwind during the day and had to be retensioned. Henlsey said this was normal. Very annoying. So, did the folks at Pro Pride solve these issues? I'm a believer in the technology but won't use the Hensley again. (Any offers?).
I've used the ProPride for a year now with one long trip to Alaska last summer. One time in Montana, when our camp site in an RV park had the TV at an up angle when I unhitched, caused the hitch-up to be a little difficult because I could not get the angle right. One other time, I had one of the jacks come a little loose and tilt over, but it did not cause a problem. Sean had come out with a shim that eliminates that problem now.

The towing experience, the way the rig drives and rides, is the best I have ever expereinced, and I've been towing travel trailers off and on since the 70's. I would NOT go back to the Reese Dual Cam I had before this hitch, even if they were giving them away. But, some will say I'm just opinionated.........
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:36 AM   #72
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I removed my Hensley arrow from my 28' Safari while trying to sell the trailer. I used the Hensley with a Navigator and GMC 2500 HD over 7 years. The towing experience was outstanding (other than the 'bump'). I'm keeping the trailer and planning to outfit a new tow vehicle. We found the Hensley tricky to hitch and downright annoying to UN hitch. We had to remove the pin from the hitch receiver and it was 50/50 which would pull out first; the receiver or the Hensley. It was very sensitive to jack height when disconnecting or how level the site was. Also, the spring bar tension jacks always unwind during the day and had to be retensioned. Henlsey said this was normal. Very annoying. So, did the folks at Pro Pride solve these issues? I'm a believer in the technology but won't use the Hensley again. (Any offers?).
All your concerns are a non-issue if the install is done according to the manual....ask me how I know.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:06 AM   #73
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I removed my Hensley arrow from my 28' Safari while trying to sell the trailer. I used the Hensley with a Navigator and GMC 2500 HD over 7 years. The towing experience was outstanding (other than the 'bump'). I'm keeping the trailer and planning to outfit a new tow vehicle. We found the Hensley tricky to hitch and downright annoying to UN hitch. We had to remove the pin from the hitch receiver and it was 50/50 which would pull out first; the receiver or the Hensley. It was very sensitive to jack height when disconnecting or how level the site was. Also, the spring bar tension jacks always unwind during the day and had to be retensioned. Henlsey said this was normal. Very annoying. So, did the folks at Pro Pride solve these issues? I'm a believer in the technology but won't use the Hensley again. (Any offers?).

Initially, I had some problems in unhitching - hard to know what height to put the tongue jack at so that no load was on the stinger causing it to be difficult to remove.

Hensley gave me the answer when I questioned them on this. If you watch closely where the hitch goes into your TV receiver, you can actually see slight movement as you operate the tongue jack, just at the point where the stinger comes loose. You can even put your thumb on the drawbar just where it enters the receiver and feel the relative motion at the point the stinger comes loose.

Seems to work just fine.

So far, I haven't really had a problem with jack screws coming loose - but if it starts to happen, I will just make a simple locking device that will drop over the hex head on top, and it will have a wing bolt that will enter the small hole in the side of the jack screw this preventing the jack screw from unwinding.

I will agree that we have had a learning curve with the Hensley, but I think we are over it now! I'm not sure if the Pro Pride would be different in this respect or not.

The best thing I did was to make up one of the dummy wooden hitch bars that stick into the Hensley to help line up the angles of the stinger and the Hensley.

I have found that if I take my time to match up the angles properly rather than rush things, it makes hooking up a piece of cake! If I don't it can be frustrating.

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Old 08-12-2011, 08:53 AM   #74
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......So far, I haven't really had a problem with jack screws coming loose - but if it starts to happen, I will just make a simple locking device that will drop over the hex head on top, and it will have a wing bolt that will enter the small hole in the side of the jack screw this preventing the jack screw from unwinding.

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Brian,

I had forgotten about the "self inflected" problem I caused with the jack scews,(when I disassembled them at install to spray with bedliner), I lubed the threads, my bad, didn't pay enough attention to the manual.

This was my on-the-road solution. The metal tire valve cap, riveted to the band clamp, seats in the jack hex lock screw when clamp tightened.

Have since cleaned lube from jack screws and problem has not re-occured.

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Old 08-12-2011, 10:16 AM   #75
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Bob,

An ingenious on the road solution! Us RV'ers always have to be inventive!

I had thought about just taking a short piece of square tube, maybe an inch long, that would drop over the hex head and be sized to prevent it from turning.

Then, to the square tube, I would weld a small ninety degree bracket to come down the side of the tube just far enough to reach the access hole.

At that point I would drill the bracket and weld a nut onto it so that a wing bolt could be screwed in and tightened into the hole preventing the gadget from turning - just as you did really!

I think I'll make a set up just for fun and to have on hand in case I need them at some point!

Incidentally, I have squirted lube into that side hole - I guess I didn't read the manual either, just figured it would be a good thing to do - so I suppose mine might start to unwind soon too!

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Old 08-12-2011, 10:25 AM   #76
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When I ran Hensley Mfg I had a full-time guy answering hitching and unhitching calls (many of you may remember him, Jarrod).

With over 3200 hitches on the road I have had only 4 or 5 calls about the 3P hitch.

The easier hitching has been the single most commented on feature from customers who formerly owned the Arrow and now own the 3P.

1. The greater angles around the hitch box help. 14 degree angles rather than 12 degree angles.

2. The section of the hitch bar inserting into the hitch box is also shorter so there isn't as much length to get jammed against the hitch box side wall. A smaller opening, less angle and longer bar with the Arrow requires a much more precise lining up of the bar and the hitch box.

You can think of it his way...

Backing a 25' Airstream into a spot that narrows from 12' to 8' in the last 4 feet of travel...

Is A LOT easier than...

Backing a 34' Airstream into a spot that narrows from 10' to 8' in the last 6 feet of travel.

3. The 3P hitch boxes have all four sides that are laser cut and matched together perfectly in the corners. This leaves no uneven corners to hang up the hitch bar.

4. Our hitch bar wedges are A LOT more finished than the rectangular pieces of steel welded to the Arrow bars with weld filling the corners. You can see that if some of 2airs' photos in the pp thread.



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.....I think I'll make a set up just for fun and to have on hand in case I need them at some point! Brian
Excellent idea, you can never have enough "stuff" in the tool kit!!!

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Old 08-13-2011, 05:01 PM   #78
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I had the same problem with my Hensley , I used LOCTITE blue , keeps it tight , i can undo it and lasts on my jacks threads for about a season of towing .
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Great Forum!

I'm awaiting delivery of a brand new 28' International and have used this forum extensively regarding the best tow set-up. My motto has always been to not repeat the same mistake someone else has already made! So, this business of hauling around 7,300 pounds (plus) was critical. After reading every single comment from everyone, I decided on the ProPride3P. I made this decision on a SATURDAY, sent Sean an email for guidance on the best model. He answered me on the next day (less than 24 hours!). So, this sent a pretty strong signal about customer service. He also said that I could easily install it myself, though I'm gonna let ODM do it...though I'll be watching the whole process. So, thanks to all of you for the pros and cons. Expect I'll be a bit more comfortable with a crosswind or a 53' semi induced blast of wind.
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Thumbs up A Life without sway.....

BAB,

You won't be sorry.... you can now forever remain a "sway maiden" and serenely enjoy the rapture of towing without the worry of becoming the jaded paramour of an unruly Airstream.

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Thank you for the shout out, BAB. 24 hours is sort of my "unofficial" deadline. If I'm alive I answer within 24 hours.

Bob... nice wordsmithing!
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I realize this thread is an older thread and I'm going to add my 2cents.
Pro Pride vs Hensly not going there. I think that is personal preference. I went with ProPride, as to me it seems better engineered. Just my personal choice.

I look at the equalizer hitch and I think its fine IF you follow the instructions. The instructions say DO NOT BACK UP with this equilize. Duh who wants an extra step in setting up camp. you have to stop, unhook the Equalizer then back up. I'm too lazy to do that. I did not see this in the manuals for either the Hensley or the ProPride.
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:53 PM   #83
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Hensley design hitches back just fine without any fiddling with the setup...I have a ProPride, and it responds to all of my dumb moves just fine, in a very predictable manner.

We won't talk about the water tap I cleaned off the side of the neighbors house with the front tire of the TV while pulling forward after dropping the trailer in his side yard...or the shower he missed while I was frantically repairing the damage. (John is a prince of a fellow...)

Also-after over 5,000 total miles of towing in 2013 with the ProPride, most of which was for 4-5 days straight on the road at a time, I never had a jack 'unwind'. This is a set and forget on my ProPride at least. (yes, I did get out the ruler and check every day--but mine don't move...) I have a nice reference line on the jack tube now...

Now that I got rid of the Husky brand hitch, I'm a happy 'sway maiden'...
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