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Old 05-31-2009, 02:25 PM   #15
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I don't know if I can say this so that you will understand it but I saw a propride hitch installed a few weeks ago and my impression is that the only real difference that I could detect between it and a Hensley is that the Hensley allows the hitch head(main part of the hitch) to swivel more before binding.
What I mean is that you can go over more uneven ground before the hitch binds.
Something like driving through a depression and twisting from left to right.
I noticed this when my friend unhitched. The head of the propride doesn't drop as much as the Hensley.
Otherwise I think the Propride is really just the same in function as the Hensley.
Just like Hensley's brake controller is the same as the prodigy p3.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:29 PM   #16
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Understand that I am not referring to turning radius.
What I am referring to is up and down and twisting of the connection between tow vehicle and hitch.
I don't think either of these hitches allow as much articulation as a ball hitch.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:42 PM   #17
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I don't know if I can say this so that you will understand it but I saw a propride hitch installed a few weeks ago and my impression is that the only real difference that I could detect between it and a Hensley is that the Hensley allows the hitch head(main part of the hitch) to swivel more before binding.
What I mean is that you can go over more uneven ground before the hitch binds.
Something like driving through a depression and twisting from left to right.
I noticed this when my friend unhitched. The head of the propride doesn't drop as much as the Hensley.
Otherwise I think the Propride is really just the same in function as the Hensley.
Just like Hensley's brake controller is the same as the prodigy p3.
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Understand that I am not referring to turning radius.
What I am referring to is up and down and twisting of the connection between tow vehicle and hitch.
I don't think either of these hitches allow as much articulation as a ball hitch.
Al

You're correct, Al. They both have the exact same pivot point projection through the steering links. That was Jim Hensley's original patent that he licensed to the orange company. They no longer have and licenses with Jim Hensley. They don't need one because that is out of patent.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:42 PM   #18
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There have been lots of folks stop by to look at that orange "thing" on the front of our trailer - after some discussion a few (by no means all) will have judged it to be “overkill” often using the sentiment “you must have money to throw away”.

It’s true - I did “throw money away” - by listening to those (who should have known better) give me advice on my first two hitches - both those hitches are upstairs in my garage now - wasted money to be sure.

Regarding overkill ....

The sense of towing comfort and security is determined by the owner - and it is so very apparent that much of the criticism often leveled at the use of a Hensley is from those who have never had the experience of towing with one to be able to make an objective judgment - this seems so incredibly bizarre that such harsh verdicts can be based on nothing but arm-chair opinion. Sway is the important part of the story - the safety part - but there is more - the design of this type of hitch does not permit the trailer to have any side-to-side leverage on the vehicle in any form - the comfort this gives the driver is incredible - and it must be experienced to be believed.

The reality of comfort and security is a different measure - but traffic statistics are clear in identifying that all SUV’s (regardless of size), have a marginal safety record - are prone to rolling over - and this is before anything is hooked up! So, if you are going to tow a trailer - at least in my view - it's real smart to stack the odds in your favour - the design of the Hensley (and presumably ProPride) unquestionably provide a great leg up in the safety department - and this is not just good news - its great news.


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Old 05-31-2009, 03:03 PM   #19
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I have said this before:
I would rather have more than I need, and not need it, than need something desperately, and not have it. Therefore, I would rather have a Hensley or ProPride, and never be in a situation I needed the benefits of them, than the reverse situation. And yes, I do have a big orange "thing", and as soon as I get an extra $700 or so to get all the parts to make it work, it's getting installed.
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We have pulled our 7400# 2005 25FB with a 2500 Suburban using a Hensley for 45,000 miles without a single anxious moment including the last several days of towing in the mountains with minimal trailer brakes.

I find it easier to hook up by myself without any assistance.

I can't comment on the Pro-pride from personal experience, but it appears to be set-up like the Hensley. I like Pro-pride's height-adjustable hitch bar for it's flexibility. The down side to this feature is that it has to weigh a bunch. My Hensley hitch bar with a 6" drop weighs about as much as I care to deal with.

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Old 05-31-2009, 03:24 PM   #21
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Read my post again Sean. I wasn't referring to how far the hitch point is projected.
I was referring to how much change in attitude the tow vehicle could have relative to the trailer before the setup binds. Imagine you are on a level road and then turn into a driveway that is going steeply down to the right. Not only down but also twisting.
I think the Hensley allows more of this than your hitch but I am not really sure.
I haven't tried it with two setups over the same terrain.
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:36 PM   #22
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Read my post again Sean. I wasn't referring to how far the hitch point is projected.
I was referring to how much change in attitude the tow vehicle could have relative to the trailer before the setup binds. Imagine you are on a level road and then turn into a driveway that is going steeply down to the right. Not only down but also twisting.
I think the Hensley allows more of this than your hitch but I am not really sure.
I haven't tried it with two setups over the same terrain.
Al

Sorry, didn't get that. No, the new design will actually allow more pivot in that plane. The side of the yoke, when installed per the directions, can pivot up 1-2". A strut bar could never do that without popping the shear bolts and pushing the frame bracket back toward the trailer.
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:26 PM   #23
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Wait for Loudruff to chime in on the differences ,He has towed the same trailer with both the Hensley and the Propride. I have a Hensley and agree it is easier to hook up with out assistance after You get the hang of it(The propride would be the sam). The Propride seems to have a larger opening and a greater surface area on the taper part of the stinger. Adjustment provided on the hitch latch mechanism seems to allow for more wear(meaning it will compensate for wear better) than the Hensley. I can attest that tow vehicle size does not make sway immunity. I purchased the Hensley after Our 30ft almost got away. And we tow with a 1ton dually.
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Wait for Loudruff to chime in on the differences ,He has towed the same trailer with both the Hensley and the Propride.

There's also a product review on my site from a former orange customer of mine that purchased the 3P.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:53 PM   #25
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Just to provide a different point of view on the hook-up of a Hensley - it is certainly different than the typical hitch - but the learning curve is not steep and once you are familiar with its "rules" the hookup becomes easy (with the aid of the hitch helper). I would disagree that it needs two people - in my view it is a heck of a lot easier to hook up without assistance - in fact a second person really adds to the challenge.

I would also suggest that the Hensley really shines where the marriage between the trailer and tow vehicle is approaching marginal - I tow a 19 foot Bambi with a Pathfinder and the Hensley (our third hitch) has made an unbelievable difference in towing comfort and security.

The engineering behind the ProPride is similar. The Hensley has a 60 day trial period which may be a factor - if PropPride has the same I couldn't find it on their website. The adjustable stinger that Tim A. talks about is a plus for ProPride. You may also want to ask about the Hensley "bump" - if ProPride's design has been able to eliminate this that would also be a plus.

Whatever you choose I am sure you will be more than happy with.

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I agree. I only hook to my Hensley by myself. It usually takes me less than 5 minutes in everyplace I have camped so far. Pull with what you feel comfortable with.....peace of mind is worth a lot. I have pulled my 34 footer with my dually without the Hensley and it will sway behind the truck. The truck is heavy enough to dampen the sway, but with the Hensley, my trailer DON'T sway....period!! I am sure the Pro Ride system is good too.
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We picked up our new classic 31' in Colorado in December, with ProPride attached, and towed back to Tennessee (1400 miles) without a problem. Serious changes in elevation, blowing winter crosswinds, gully-washer rain storm coming off the TN plateau - the ProPride handled it all beautifully. We feel very safe using it, and it's fascinating watching it "float" as we turn corners.
The only complaint: It has taken us 30 minutes or more to hitch up. For some reason - even if we have the Excursion lined up with the trailer just like we unhitched - it can be very difficult to get the hitch fully connected. We have to partially hitch up, then I have to raise the tongue jack in increments as my husband taps the SUV back bit by bit until the hitch is fully integrated. I'm convinced it has something to do with how our entire hitch package was installed on the trailer. That makes me nervous because it seems to indicate that things are not lined up properly and strain is being put on it.
Sean, I sure wish I had you here in person to just give it a go-over. Or perhaps just to give us the hitching lesson we really need.
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The only complaint: It has taken us 30 minutes or more to hitch up. For some reason - even if we have the Excursion lined up with the trailer just like we unhitched - it can be very difficult to get the hitch fully connected. We have to partially hitch up, then I have to raise the tongue jack in increments as my husband taps the SUV back bit by bit until the hitch is fully integrated. I'm convinced it has something to do with how our entire hitch package was installed on the trailer. That makes me nervous because it seems to indicate that things are not lined up properly and strain is being put on it.
Do you put chocks behind the trailer wheels so it won't try to roll out from the hitch?
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:16 PM   #28
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Towed with both..same trailer

Same trailer and same tow vehicle. History: Retired truck driver, farmer, logger etc....I think I have towed just about everything.. and used to think that the fancy orange paint couldn't possibly be THAT GOOD! Tow vehicle: F350 one ton, 15 passenger van. The overhang behind the rear wheels is extreme and allows alot of leverage to the trailer. Maybe the worst oversized vehicle to tow with. But heck, it IS a one ton truck! We had been towing a '78 Minuet with just a ball and friction sway control. We recently purchased a 1989 Excella 1000-29 footer. We went to pick it up on the way to the Dogwood and Bluegrass Rally in KY. The PO said that he was not comfortable letting me go out of the driveway just hanging it on the bumper. But it's a one ton truck!!! OK...so he loans me his Hensley. His stinger was an 8 in. drop. So we were trailering nose down with a tow vehicle that has the hitch way aft of the back axle. (Can it get worse than this?? I don't think it can get worse than this!!!) But down the road we go with the Hensley. In 5 mi. I say to my "navigator",.. " I gotta have one of these!" There was less sway, less notice of passing trucks, less noticeable crosswind, and highway grooving less noticable. We put about 1000 mi. on the Hensley before we received the ProPride from Sean. Cost was a factor in deciding to go with ProPride, and I kind of like new ideas anyway, as well as upstart companies.
Highway performance is the same as the Hensley, the geometry and theory is very similar. Differences: It is all black! No orange! It comes with an adjustable stinger that can't weigh more than a couple of pounds more than the 8" drop welded up monster that I had borrowed. I now have the opportunity to tow with another TV, the adjustable hitch makes that possible without having a second stinger. As ctdair mentioned, the wedge angle and receiver are larger on the ProPride making hitching easier, although I found everytime that I have hooked up to be easier than trying to align a ball and hitch. You only have to get it close left and right, up and down, same as with a ball, but when you back in, you back in til it stops. You don't have to get the ball straight under the hitch. I have hooked up with the TV in a down angle and on an angle to the left and found it really easy. No hitch helper to adjust side to side has been necessary. Maybe I have just been lucky, but I have hitched and unhitched this thing fifteen times so far. I have never had any difficulty with either one and I think it is easier to hitch by yourself. No helper needed.
We just got back from another trip so I have about the same amount of time/miles as we towed with the Hensley now. I like that the weight distribution adjustment jacks do not swing back and forth and mount directly above the frame. I think the ProPride has these refinements to its credit.
One might justify the cost of these high end hitches as a percentage of the value of what you have going down the road. Do you need a $2500-3000 hitch to tow a $6000 trailer..probably NOT. However, if you are towing something in the $15,000+ range plus TV, plus loved ones, your comfort level is a difficult thing to put a price on. All this from a guy who two months ago said, "Who needs to spend that kind of money for a hitch?"

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