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Old 03-07-2010, 06:32 PM   #1
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Having to counter steer a little when towing & EQ hitch sounds

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Just took the first trip with our 19 ft Bambi and when cruising on the HWY I had to counter steer a little to left?? I have a Pathfinder, EQ hitch, and the vehicle did well except for that. At low speeds didnít notice it?? I didnít feel as though I was loosing any steering capabilities and as far as hitch set up, the rig and trailer look pretty level with slight rear end dip. A big part of the trip was on a curvy two lane rd and it handled fine.

Also, EQ hitch was pretty loud on slow tight turns, sounded like I had a Blue Whale behind the rig, does it go away over time??

Any advice would be great.

Thanks!!
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:18 PM   #2
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A bit of push back, or counter steering, is normal when being passed by a semi, or if there are strong side winds. Going straight down the road, you shouldn't feel it.

Try hooking it up without the EQ hitch and pull it down the road and highway, and see if it feels different or better. I don't use any WD eqpt, don't find it necessary, and like how it pulls. JMHO

Could you have a brake dragging on one side? That could pull you to one side if it's severe. Pull it around and see if one wheel feels hotter than the other. Just an idea.
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Hello,

Just took the first trip with our 19 ft Bambi and when cruising on the HWY I had to counter steer a little to left?? I have a Pathfinder, EQ hitch, and the vehicle did well except for that. At low speeds didn’t notice it?? I didn’t feel as though I was loosing any steering capabilities and as far as hitch set up, the rig and trailer look pretty level with slight rear end dip. A big part of the trip was on a curvy two lane rd and it handled fine.

Also, EQ hitch was pretty loud on slow tight turns, sounded like I had a Blue Whale behind the rig, does it go away over time??

Any advice would be great.

Thanks!!
If the EQ hitch is the Equal-izer brand, they recommend lightly lubricating the four friction points to cut the noise down. As far as the pulling to the right is concerned, my first guess would be a slight dragging of a brake. After the next tow, stop and check by hand the temperature of the trailer wheels to see if the right is hotter. Also, almost all roads are crowned or low on the shoulders. So there is usually some slight tendency to pull that direction. However if you have do not have the EQ hitch adjusted properly, and there is too much weight coming off the front, the tendency to pull right will be accentuated and you need to correct more. I would try adjusting the hitch to get the rear and front of the pathfinder at the same height. In other words measure something like the top of the fender wells when not hitched, and then adjust the WD so that the front and back lower the same amount.

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It shouldn't do that. I agree with what others have said about a sticking brake, and the importance of proper hitch rigging.

It will not get better by itself.

Also, you may have an alignment problem in either the trailer or the tow vehicle. Might be worth checking in at a frame and alignment shop where they actually understand front end work, though these are now few and far between.

What is your tow vehicle? Any problems you might have would be exacerbated by a tow vehicle that is too small or too light.
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Check all your tires pressure cold. Trailer and Tow vehicle. They should be at least be equal left to right.
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"Live" steering is better than holding a hard straight steering line. The resulting problem could be PIO (pilot induced oscillations) with surprising results if yer sleeping on the job (I've been there...). [Got that right, Michelle?]

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Tire pressure is my first thought. Consult your weight scale readings where you can identify axle-by-axle loading (divided by 2) to compare against Tire & Load Inflation Pressure Tables. Once the WDH has been dialled-in then finer adjustments such as tire pressures make more sense.

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One needs to check ones tire manufacturer website for numbers on brand/model/size. I wouldn't go under vehicle manufacturer numbers; maybe add 20% as factor. Avoid overinflation as it reduces steering/braking contact patch.

Then TV alignment should be checked (with half-tank fuel, normal "trunk junk" and weight representing driver in that footwell), as well as TT with full propane and fresh water.

Other than this be aware that the ruts in some roads will cause the vehicle to "naturally" follow same depending on alignment, winds, loading, etc, and wheel will be cocked to one side or another; that is, several "small" factors can add up ("tolerance stack", in a loose manner of speaking) to conspire against steering "neutrality".

I don't find it acceptable any more than you do, so good luck.
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Counter Steering / tire inflation

Thank you all. I appreciate the feedback. Looks like I have some tinkering to do but great points which I will take a look at. I did have my eye on the EQ hitch adjustment so will see if I can get the front end down a little more. I still have a few washers and some L bracket adjustments that I can make.

Didnít think about the brakes so I will check that out. On tire inflation: recommended max psi is 80 cold. Should I be at the max?? Right now they are both at 65 psi and I am not close to reaching the GVW at 4500. So far, loaded up, the trailer has been around 3800 lbs.
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...On tire inflation: recommended max psi is 80 cold. Should I be at the max?? Right now they are both at 65 psi and I am not close to reaching the GVW at 4500. So far, loaded up, the trailer has been around 3800 lbs...
are u running E rated tires on the trailer?...

why?

regardless, 60 or 65 psi is plenty on the trailer tires but the IMPORTANT tire issue is related to the nissan.

IF it's got P metric car tires OR the tires are under inflated, steering/towing control will be wishy washy...

so max out the tv tires OR upgrade to LT tires with stiffer sidewalls.

most of the other advice is reasonable EXCEPT the silly notion of trying the set up WITHOUT a w/d sway control hitch...

u gain NOTHING by making a trial of towing ON the ball, and risk a LOT.

a sticking brake is EASY to check, but i doubt that's the issue.
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IF the push/pull/buffeting and counter steering bother U...

the next step is a hitch gizmo with MORE control/stability...

and with the nissan (high center/short wheelbase) going to a hitch with MORE stability is a good FIRST option.

also U might wanna post pictures of your rig, LOTS of info and problems become apparent with pix...

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Old 03-09-2010, 01:09 PM   #10
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Tire inflation

Thanks 2air'

Yeah the TV is riding on its factory tires and I did read somewhere else that LT tires are the way to go for a midsize SUV. That may be a fix but one the wife wonít like, she wont understand why we need new tires on our New car!! Not sure if the Trailer is riding on E rated or not I need to take a look at them.

The counter steering is not a real problem just caught me off guard the first trip out. It is only slight, aprox steering at the 11 oíclock position and only notice it on HWY. I will play with the tire inflation on the TV and try distributing a little more weight off the TV as well.

I will post a photo when I get back to the camera.

Thanks for your help.
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