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Old 10-18-2003, 05:16 PM   #15
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What layout do you have in mind?
I hate the end bath layout

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Hart,
For the time being the rear bath is going to have to stay. I am planning on converting one of the twins to a double and removing the other one for desk, wardrobe type space. I have to unbastardize the front couch, FO added a bunch of plywood and 2x4's trying to make a queen This is my first AS so I am not trying too much right off the bat. But that may change real quick. I am really looking forward to having something that I can work on and not worry about the consequences. Plus I am sure I can sell it tomorrow for what I have in it, if necessary.

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Wanna come pull mine home? Our TV is in the shop... for at least another week But we may be getting another one shortly anyway.

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Old 10-18-2003, 06:50 PM   #16
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I have completed the twin conversion as far as the construction is concerned. I put in a full size bed but used a futon matress so it can fold up into a couch when not in use and allow access to the rear bath and give me the extra room for a desk and set of drawers on the road side. I still have some finish work to do. I dont think the queen will fit, better take a tape and make sure.
I use 2X2's and 3/8" ac plywood for most construction but used 1/4" for the bed decking.
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:49 PM   #17
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Thumbs up Thanks Everyone

Thanks to all of you for your great replies! I will definitely be getting the brake controller...I must sheepishly admit that I was not certain one could be installed independent of the trailer. I thought their had to be some sort of "synching" between the tow vehicle and the trailer regarding the braking system!

Uwe in Orange County thank you for your kind offer! How generous! I may take you up on some tips and give you a call. I am not certain how to contact those on our list via email but will attempt to do so.

Regarding the 31' Sovereign layout...it has a midships bed that I think is a double on the curb side. Rear bath. I think the living room set up is a bit unique as it has an L type of sofa that is quite large that wraps along the street side and front. Very nice layout for my family!

Once again thanks to all for the great welcome to this forum as well as the generous advice!
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Old 10-19-2003, 06:50 PM   #18
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Thanks to all of you for your great replies! I will definitely be getting the brake controller...I must sheepishly admit that I was not certain one could be installed independent of the trailer. I thought their had to be some sort of "synching" between the tow vehicle and the trailer regarding the braking system!

Yes, the controller must be "leveled" prior to towing, but it is a 2 minute thing, involving a couple of minor adjustments to the controller. After doing this, you need to adjust how aggressive the trailer bakes will be, also a few minute thing. You can install the controller without the trailer being there, you can install and drive to the trailer, then make your adjustments. You would have to do this anyway, no matter where you picked up the trailer.
Good luck with your new "baby".
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Old 10-20-2003, 07:11 AM   #19
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Thanks to all of you for your great replies! I will definitely be getting the brake controller...I must sheepishly admit that I was not certain one could be installed independent of the trailer. I thought their had to be some sort of "synching" between the tow vehicle and the trailer regarding the braking system!

Uwe in Orange County thank you for your kind offer! How generous! I may take you up on some tips and give you a call. I am not certain how to contact those on our list via email but will attempt to do so.

Regarding the 31' Sovereign layout...it has a midships bed that I think is a double on the curb side. Rear bath. I think the living room set up is a bit unique as it has an L type of sofa that is quite large that wraps along the street side and front. Very nice layout for my family!

Once again thanks to all for the great welcome to this forum as well as the generous advice!
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No problem installing the wiring on the tow rig. That is actually a standard these days'. Most shops will be able to have it all wired un in about an hour. Now what may run you into a problem is the trailer may have the old style plug on it. That may need to be updated. Might check with a large trailer hitch place and see if there is an adaptor from the old "Pin" style to the current "Spade" style. If you can find that then you should be completly ready to go reguardless.

As for towing without right gear. DON"T DO IT!

We moved out 59 30 miles. Had no choice it had to be moved right then due to it being the only time a tow vehicle was available. The WD hitch was MIA. It was a white knuckle ride.
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Old 10-20-2003, 08:13 AM   #20
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I towed my Overlander 60 miles with only 3 tires holding air, no brakes and no lights (during the day of course.) I had to get it off the peoples property right away, as they were being fined $250/day for it being there. I had a buddy of mine following right behind in his pickup with my hand held CB, and me with my CB in my Suburban. 50 of the 60 miles were empty highway on a Sunday morning. The trip through town wasn't too bad either. I just left a lot of room between myself and the other cars. I wouldn't reccomend doing this, but in my case it was then or never.

I'm not experienced at towing, but that old yacht tracked perfectly behind me at 50 mph, effortlessly. Of course, there were no trucks blowing by me to cause any swaying.

I have a Tekonsha Voyager that I inherited, but haven't as of yet had it installed. I have read that most people prefer the Prodigy. For now, and for my local treks, I will use the Voyager. When I get ready for longer hauls, I will consider upgrading.

Good luck on your tow, and take it slow. Have someone follow you if you can. They can let you know if things are falling off the trailer, or tires are going low.
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Old 10-20-2003, 11:04 PM   #21
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Update on my Towing Dilemma/Decision

The advice received on this forum has been terrific and most convincing not to tow the 31 footer the hundred miles or so without proper gear.
Well, as luck would have it, the seller lives no more than 20 miles from Inland RV the Airstream specialist in Corona! He has agreed to deliver the Airstream there where I will have the wd hitch installed. I will drive to Inland RV after having already had the brake controller installed on my Excursion here in San Diego.
I think that it could be a pretty seamless process and certainly a heck of a lot safer....might just have Inland repack the wheel bearings as well!

Thanks again all for the advice. Once I get the Sovereign home, I will take photos and load them on the site here.

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Having the bearings repacked and the brakes checked, adjusted, and fixed if needed you will be way ahead of the game. Sure its not cheap but you wont have to get greasy and wont have to worry about possible problems on your return trip home.
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Be carefull taking it to Inland....

He's gonna try and sell you some axles....
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Old 10-20-2003, 11:39 PM   #24
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Thanks for the heads-up on Inland. Is there a bit of personal experience that you are remembering?
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Old 10-20-2003, 11:46 PM   #25
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Just from reading here. Do a search on axles and you'll get a lot of good reading.

Also on inlandrv's website they have a nice article on axles and how to determine if they are bad.

To be honest, if they are bad, all you can do is replace them...

Good luck with your new rig.
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:05 AM   #26
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Inland RV is the best place to take delivery of your AS.
Have Andy inspect it & deduct what has to be changed from the sales price.

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Silvereagle,
I do have quite a bit of personal experience with InlandRV.
Andy and his crew are very trustworthy and safety conscious. Safety first, is always Andy's motto. You can read that in his posts on this forum. It's a mom/pop operation grown way out of bounds, so a little patience is always a good thing. But Andy is absolutely honest, and not a "hard sell" sort of guy.
I imagine that you will have had a good experience with Andy after you drive home your rig, all set up and ready to go and enjoy. I believe that you made a good decision by having a professional like Andy do your first setup and hitch install.
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