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Old 03-23-2006, 08:57 AM   #29
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I use the weight distribution bars for towing my 19' 2002 Bambi and have never had a problem with sway even when being passed by 18-wheelers at 65+ mph. There was one time when I was towing my trailer on back roads for 5 miles that I didn't take the time to install the weight distribution bars and I could really feel the difference (i.e., I felt like the trailer was swaying and pulling my tow vehicle from side to side). I didn't like that sensation at all and will never by pass that step again in the future.
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Roger, I know it is considered heretical, worse than being a Christian in Afghanistan, to not bow to the Gods of sway control and load leveling in an RV forum. But your own post contradicts itself.

An episode of hitch failure means that the sway control would also be gone - useless to ameliorate the outcome. You also say " The causes of sway are manifold" and then talk about an inadequate tow vehicle. and "I'm always amazed at how a trailer that was almost uncontrollable behind one tow vehicle can be absolutely well behaved behind another." Sway control can be a cover for problems that can reach out to bite you if you aren't careful.

The fact is that you noticed the handling before it became a problem is exactly to my point.

Enduroryda also demonstrates this. He notices the sag and realizes it needs fixing. He is worried about "proper hook-up is key" and wants to make sure to get it right.

When the feces hit the rotating air circulating device, it is way past the point where a sway control mechanism is going to make much difference. Whether it is a hitch failure or an attempt to recover from a sudden maneauver, sway control is well out of its regime. It is the driver who chooses the proper equipment, sets it up correctly, makes sure it is connected and functioning as intended, loads his rig properly, and drives with due consideration for the handling, size, and weight of his rig who has put his efforts into making a safe experience.
Too funny Bryan! Good simile! But it's not heretical, and in some ways we're saying the same things. I believe that sway control ought to be in addition to doing all the right things to properly hitch and balance your trailer, not a substitute for it.

In the case where my trailer jumped the hitch ball, a WDH would have saved the day with or without sway control because it wouldn't have let the coupler come of the ball because of the force the WDH exerts on the coupler over the hitch ball.

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In the case where my trailer jumped the hitch ball, a WDH would have saved the day with or without sway control because it wouldn't have let the coupler come of the ball because of the force the WDH exerts on the coupler over the hitch ball.

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hmmm....my bars push the coupler up off the ball. that latch is what holds it all together. If you disengage it before disconnecting the wd bars, it goes "boinggg", straight up. don't want to think about what that would do to the stability of your ride if it happened while under way.

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... which truck????
The vehicle I call the "beast", i.e., GMC 2500 HD pick-up. Don't forget that my Bambi trailer runs around 4500 - 4800 pounds. FYI, I was just towing the trailer from our house to the Salisbury Beach campground five miles away.
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The vehicle I call the "beast", i.e., GMC 2500 HD pick-up. Don't forget that my Bambi trailer runs around 4500 - 4800 pounds. FYI, I was just towing the trailer from our house to the Salisbury Beach campground five miles away.
I must admit, I'm a little surprised. not that you would 'notice' a difference, so much, but that it would be so pronounced. I'd bet its the "rigidity" that the wd hitch connection creates, more than the actual weight distribution with that setup, though. I think we get spoiled by our 'streams...they tow so well to begin with. I used to tow much heavier stuff (flat-beds w/ construction equipment) with a truck like that. no wd or anything. I could "feel" the trailer back there, for sure. but it wasn't like it was "pushing me around". Certainly, a flat-bed w/ a tractor is not as prone to this effect as an enclosed trailer, but that should only really apply at highway speed. Between your house and SBSP, there's hardly a spot where you'd be going more than 30mph.
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Chuck...if you are going to the "Spring into Camping" rally, you can test it out for yourself as I'm running a clinic on "how to back up your trailer" in the parking lot. After the clinic, you can try it out yourself before and after the removal of the wd bars.
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Chuck...if you are going to the "Spring into Camping" rally, you can test it out for yourself as I'm running a clinic on "how to back up your trailer" in the parking lot. After the clinic, we can remove the wd bars and you can try it out yourself.
Kewl! do-nuts in the parking lot with someone elses trailer!! wooHOO!!!!!
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Chuck, Thanks for clearing up the sway bars vs. weight distribution bars...although is there such a thing as sway bars?? Or do people just call the weight distribution bars that..sorry, I'm a real newbie as you can tell, just want to be sure I have all my ducks in a row.

I'm glad to finally have perfect confidence in my TV. I knew it could handle the weight and all from all my info gathered here. I'm taking everything in here one step at a time.

Yukionna...I will hook up from now on...didn't even feel a side to side sway like you said although it was a white knuckle experience driving it home at 30mph. I felt it pushing me a little more over small inclines in the road but once moving on a staight "smoother" road, it towed like it wasn't even back there.

Thanks all for helping keep me out of the way of Leipper's fan!! Ann
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Chuck, Thanks for clearing up the sway bars vs. weight distribution bars...although is there such a thing as sway bars??
Yes there is. We have a separate anti-sway bar which we have never felt we needed. As I indicated earlier in this thread, even at 65+mph with 18-wheelers flying by us, the weight distribution bars hold the trailer steady. We don't feel any of the wind "washback" from the passing trucks.
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Lots of things are inappropriately called "sway bars". Sway control comes in several flavors, the most prevalent among light weight trailers being the friction sway control bar offered by many different companies. Reese also offeres sway control with their weight distributing hitches in two varieties, the Dual Cam, and their later version of it. Equalizer also has sway control built into one of their weight distributing hitches. The weight distribution bars on WDH also have been mistakenly called "sway bars".

All of these products try to keep the trailer from moving out of line with the tow vehicle. Unfortunately the friction sway control bars, once out of line, also prevent the trailer from recovering with equal alacrity.

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hmmm....my bars push the coupler up off the ball. that latch is what holds it all together. If you disengage it before disconnecting the wd bars, it goes "boinggg", straight up.
Chuck, when this happens, is the front jack down, supporting the A-frame?
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Yes there is. We have a separate anti-sway bar which we have never felt we needed. As I indicated earlier in this thread, even at 65+mph with 18-wheelers flying by us, the weight distribution bars hold the trailer steady. We don't feel any of the wind "washback" from the passing trucks.
Can you post a picture of your hitch setup? Thanks in advance...
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Can you post a picture of your hitch setup? Thanks in advance...
Can you wait until the Spring into Camping rally next month?
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Chuck, when this happens, is the front jack down, supporting the A-frame?
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no...the spring bars are supporting the a-frame at that point.
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