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Old 05-27-2007, 11:29 AM   #1
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Equil-i-zer on a 34 foot

I just bought a 34 foot classic and wondered if anyone had any experiance with useing an Equil-i-zer on one? Will this work alright with a larger trailer?
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:07 PM   #2
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Read the replies on the Reese Dual Cam thread you started. Any of the various brands will work... it's a matter of setting them up properly. You didn't mention what the tongue weight of your 34' is. Those details are what make it possible for the other members here to respond to your questions appropriately.

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Old 05-27-2007, 07:49 PM   #3
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I tow a 30' (actually listed as 31'..go figure). The equalizer is a marvel of physics. It works.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:35 PM   #4
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I saw several old posts that seemed to indicate that the equilizer was to be used on smaller rigs and was not o.k. for longer trailers. Hence my question. As the trailer will be at dry weight the tongue weight will be what Airstream specs. thank you all for the input.
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I saw several old posts that seemed to indicate that the equilizer was to be used on smaller rigs and was not o.k. for longer trailers. Hence my question. As the trailer will be at dry weight the tongue weight will be what Airstream specs. thank you all for the input.
The question is, which specs? Here are several for the 34' over the years:

1984 INTERNATIONAL 34 REAR & CENTER BATH Dry Wt: 6250 Hitch Wt: 630 Hitch Ht: 18.75

1994 LIMITED 34 Dry Wt: 7100 Hitch Wt: 800 GVWR: 8900

1999 LIMITED 34 Dry Wt: 8290 Hitch Wt: 870 GVWR: 9800

1999 LIMITED 34FK Dry Wt: 8420 Hitch Wt: 770 GVWR: 9800

2000 LIMITED S/O 34 Dry Wt: 9050 Hitch Wt: 1250 GVWR: 10500

As you can see the weights have changed pretty radically over the years in the 34' trailer series. The 2000 Limited Slide-Out model would have a hitch weight that is siginificantly heavier than your Excursion can carry safely.

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Old 05-27-2007, 09:03 PM   #6
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Wow, you're right about the 2000 Limited. Mine is the 1994 7100, 800 hitch.
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You should be fine with any of the popular hitches with 1,000 lb bars. I have used the Reese Dual Cam for years. Others have successfully used the Equalizer as well.

Seriously consider the suspension mods I suggested for your Ex in the other thread. They make an unbelievable difference. You can also increase your power and get slightly better gas mileage with a K&N FIPK. With a 3.73 rear end and an FIPK installed I averaged 15.6mpg on a 400 mile round trip with four adult passengers and seven loaded bags in the back with mine.

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my 94 had a tongue weight of 750 lbs my new one has a weigth of 1250. Have used equalizer hitches on both and am very happy. I also use a fricton sway control
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:06 PM   #9
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85mh325 having read your posts and old posts for the last two years and I've learned alot. And i took notes. So the first thing I did was go with helwig rear and hijacker shocks. It took all of the wandering out of it when not towing.I havent pulled the 34 yet as I need tires. Having read a million old threads on tires I'm still uncertain but think I will go with a ST or 2nd LT Recommendations? I was looking for something my wife could hook up in case something happened to me and thats why I was looking at the Equil-i-zer rather then the reese. She seems to think it would be simple to hook up for her. Last year I looked up the rear sway things you mentioned and will have to find them again. they looked like the answer to the Excursions problems. I have the v-10, 4.30 gears and at 60 mph and 2300 rpms we get a good solid 15 mpg out here in west nevada. Dont know what we will get when towing at 60 mph. thanks for the come back.
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Tarheel... it's good to know the Equil-i-zer will work well on a large trailer. I'm going to order one with the local dealer on Tuesday. I think he said they run about 625.00 plus 50.00 to install. I guess I'll go with the 1000 lb bars also.
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So the first thing I did was go with helwig rear and hijacker shocks. It took all of the wandering out of it when not towing.I havent pulled the 34 yet as I need tires. Having read a million old threads on tires I'm still uncertain but think I will go with a ST or 2nd LT Recommendations?
The Helwig sway bar and shocks make a world of difference. Land YOT's radius rods will take all of the play out of the rear suspension. Heres a thread on the Excursion Forums regarding how to order them: Land YOT Radius Rods I have Gen II radius rods on my Excursion.


I'd recommend replacing the tires on the 34' with "E" range ST tires in the appropriate size. Folks argue about brand; frankly I haven't found much difference in them over the years. I generally buy Marathons, but I've had sets of just about all of the brands over the years. The sidewalls generally exhibit rot before the tread is worn out. I replace them when they're about five or six years old anyway, and I've never had an ST rated tire fail on a trailer.

Good luck! Hope you enjoy your 34'/Excursion combo!

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Not sure you need E's divide the trailer weight by 6.

C's would even work, but I'd use D's.

Check the load range with the lbs that you have from the weight by 6.
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Not sure you need E's divide the trailer weight by 6.

C's would even work, but I'd use D's.

Check the load range with the lbs that you have from the weight by 6.
And Bob is right... I mis-wrote when I said "E". "D" range will work just fine on the tri-axle. They come with C's from the factory, but as with the axles, they're close to being over their load limits as well. Go for the "D" range on the trailer.

Sorry if I mislead you on this one...

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Marathon D ST tires

I just bought a used 34' Limited and have put new ST Marathon D rated tires on. Goodyear has a nice loading chart for what air pressure to use depending on the weight.

Here's a couple links to help out:

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pdf/marat...nfo_032806.pdf

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pdf/rvbrochure.pdf

On the tire pressures example, the ST Marathon D rated tires at max load and inflation is: 2540@65 psi. So six tires are capable of supporting 15240 lbs.

My trailer weighs 9800 lbs and using the chart in the rvbrochure.pdf, I'm running my tires btwn 50 & 55 psi giving me a min total of 12,900 lbs of load. Plus if I were to happen to flat one of the six I can still support the trailer with 10,750 lbs of load. The lower pressure will give me a softer ride.

If I were wanting to drive over the 65 mph tire rating I would of course have to add 10 psi per the information provided in the brochure.

Hope this helps.
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