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Old 08-02-2006, 08:55 AM   #71
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Yes, that was me, I needed to clear out my tanks at the dump station.

Your Ford doesnt hit high gear until 65 mph.....I can get my Duramax into sixth gear at 62 MPH, then I can slow to 60 and stay in sixth.

Towing my 28' to Jackson Center was nearly all 2 lans for me (100 miles) and I topped off my tank at the station next to Airstream and I got 14.4 MPG towing at 60 mph.
That is exactly what I got towing last week- 14.4 mpg (with only 2000 miles on the new truck...)

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Old 08-02-2006, 09:11 AM   #72
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I've been researching the various hitches and their sway/W/D capabilities. Just reviewed the DVD on the Hensley...is that a Dodge Intrepid towing a 34' Excella? I see the Crown Vic in other shots.

I guess you would need some (lots of) help if you tow with a front-wheel drive ~3L sedan!!

Just rambling...
I'm thinking that help would come in the form of a tow truck on the first major trip! I can't believe you would get very far with that kind of load on that kind of car. Also, you notice that, yes they are towing on a winding, mountain road, but that they are only going about 20 MPH! That's probably all they can get out of the Intrepid.

The Intrepid is a nice ride, don't get me wrong. I just don't think it was engineered to be a heavy duty tow vehicle. Bambi, yes. 34' tri-axle, no.
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:53 PM   #73
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Some interesting theorizing in this thread about the Equal-i-zer hitch.

The modifications that some have made to remove the "slop" from the a-frame mounted L brackets was one of the more thought provoking.

Before our trip of this weekend I was checking over my setup and looking at performing that type of modification....bet then I thought.....so what if the L brackets on the frame are tight, the two (upside-down) L brackets that hold the bars on are will still allow for a lot of movement of the bars, which in effect really defeats the purpose of locking down the frame mounts, doesn't it?

So I just verified all of the proper torques and left it the same. Still works great.
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:04 PM   #74
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upside down L-brackets

redeagle313,

The secondary point of friction (on each side) is between the load bars and the frame mounted L-brackets...in the vertical direction. With the loose brackets, any movement of those essentially negated the intended friction...sold as sway control.

The upside-down "keepers" are nothing more than that, they just guide the load bars or keep them from sliding off the L-bracket. There is very little force exerted on the keepers and have nearly zero contribution to friction/sway.

BTW, the primary source of friction/sway control is the horizontal (rotational/sliding) friction between the load bar sockets on the hitch head, assuming correctly torqued, and some (torsional) on the ball itself.

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redeagle313,

The secondary point of friction (on each side) is between the load bars and the frame mounted L-brackets...in the vertical direction. With the loose brackets, any movement of those essentially negated the intended friction...sold as sway control.

The upside-down "keepers" are nothing more than that, they just guide the load bars or keep them from sliding off the L-bracket. There is very little force exerted on the keepers and have nearly zero contribution to friction/sway.

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I hae a question about your comment about the "keepers", as you call them. When I unhooked from a trip last weekend I noticed that both of my "keepers" were bowed. From what you said about little force exerted on them has me concerned.

I called the mfg and they told me that some bowing was normal. They couldn't define how much is "some bowing". Regardless, I ordered replacements. The bowing has ocurred in the shaft portion of the "keeper' that goes through the L-bracket.

Have you, or anyone else, encountered this, and what are y'alls thoughts about it.

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bowed?

Tom,

From looking at my setup, it appears that the L-brackets are designed to be perpendicular with the frame, in other words, the bars should "lay" on them nearly flat.

If you've seen bowing of the keepers, I can only suspect that your L-brackets are slightly bent in at the bottom, thus allowing the tremendous force of the bars to slide outwards and putting undue force on the keepers. I've not contacted the manufacturer, but don't believe they'd design the keepers to provide measurable friction or load bearing function.

For what it's worth, when I re-engineered the L-bracket attachment, they sit perfectly flat now. I did notice before my mod that the brackets had quite a bit of inward bending, obvious to me because they were only clamped relatively high and in only one place.

BTW, whenever I disconnect my bars now from the L-brackets they've always been tight up against the vertical part of the L-bracket...

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I do have some "play" in my L brackets, that being said, now that you mention it, whenever I unhitch, the bars are also always tight up against the L Bracket.

I have noticed no wear on the "upside down L" keepers.
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If you've seen bowing of the keepers, I can only suspect that your L-brackets are slightly bent in at the bottom, thus allowing the tremendous force of the bars to slide outwards and putting undue force on the keepers. I've not contacted the manufacturer, but don't believe they'd design the keepers to provide measurable friction or load bearing function.

For what it's worth, when I re-engineered the L-bracket attachment, they sit perfectly flat now. I did notice before my mod that the brackets had quite a bit of inward bending, obvious to me because they were only clamped relatively high and in only one place.

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Marc,

The next time I'm out to the trailer I'll make sure the L brackets are aligned as you suggest, and torque the nuts to be sure. When I unhook, the bars are up against the frame.

I'm going to keep an eye on the new pins and see how they wear. Thanks.

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