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Old 03-28-2008, 01:23 PM   #1
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Equalizer and Tailgate clearance questions for new TV and trailer

OK towing gurus, in the past I had towed my 04 19' Bambi with a relatives late model Dodge RAM 2500 4x4 when my tow vehicle unexpectedly ended up in the shop. When hitched up using my existing Equalizer hitch head, I could not lower the tail gate down without hitting the jack on the trailer. The shank drop on the hitch head was not sized properly for the big truck, so the tongue on the trailer was sitting about 2-3 inches higher above level than it normally would. Fine for an emergency tow, but understandably not to everyday use.

I now have a similar Dodge Ram 2500 4x4. I recently sold the Bambi before ever getting to hitch it up to my new truck to investigate the solution, but even so the shank did not have enough drop to it to test out any adjustments.

My question, was the elevated tongue height responsible for hitting the jack when using the Equalizer hitch? Would a longer drop shank give me the clearance I would need to drop the rear gate over the jack (and maybe tanks) while still hitched or would I need to find a way to gain some more length from the receiver? I'm afraid that I can't have both. I NEED to be able to open the gate while hitched to let my dogs in and out at stops.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:32 PM   #2
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I don't think that lowering the hitch will help, but might hurt your clearance issue. With the hitch too high, the jack will be tilted away from the truck and give you more clearance then if it was straight up and down. To get your tailgate to lower you may need a longer shaft on your hitch.
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Hi Chris,

My truck and trailer have to be straight and fairly level or the tailgate will hit the jack post. Even when it can open, there isn't much clearance.
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you really don't wanna add length to the receiver OR bar...

IF the drop is correct on the bar, your tail gate should open fine, unless angled.

the power jack head may need to be rotated from the front to side,

but they really should be anyway.

g' and AOA used to sell dodges AND a/s...

call the shop someone should be able to tell you IF there are any clearance issues.

i don't think there will be, the tongue is LONGER on your new trailer...

but why don't the dogs get to ride shotgun!

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on edit, not dodge specific but here is a thread on this issue...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f400...why-35956.html
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Can't say for sure (you didn't provide measurements) but it sounds like you need more drop.
Call Progress (Equalizer) they can hook you up.

I know when we moved from a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton ("taller") I had to drop my Eq to the last hole.

Dodge is probably even taller than our Chevy...

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Receiver sits at approx 21 1/4" in the center of the opening, around 22" at the top of the receiver box, inside. I need to get the truck more level (pretty much impossible at my house) and get better measurement. Does anyone know how much longer the tongue is on the 27FB versus the 19?
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You really don't wanna add length to the receiver OR bar... If the drop is correct on the bar, your tail gate should open fine, unless angled.The power jack head may need to be rotated from the front to side, but they really should be anyway.
No, I don't really want to add any length if I can at all avoid it, but I NEED to be able to open the tailgate when underway. The jack on the Bambi was the
nearly the same width front to back as it was side to side. From the look of it, the new 'Stream uses the same jack as my old Bambi.

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g' and AOA used to sell dodges AND a/s...

call the shop someone should be able to tell you IF there are any clearance issues
Gene has said that he didn't recall there being any problems, but wasn't sure. Much of what he recommended was mentioned here in like. I'm trying not to bother him much on this issue since I am trying to get a much better price on the hitch locally. Of course, the local shop isn't any more knowledgeable than I am. I may end up paying the 'premium' to Gene to let experience and team work on the hitch to get it right.

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. . . . but why don't the dogs get to ride shotgun!
LOL, when you see my two stinky fur monsters, you'll understand!
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chris...

i think kevbo and time machine have newer rams...

and pull safaris.

you might pm either/both of them, west coast time...

go ahead and bug g', he LIKES IT!

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chris...

i think kevbo and time machine have newer rams...

and pull safaris.

you might pm either/both of them, west coast time...

go ahead and bug g', he LIKES IT!

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2air' is right again,

We have a 06 Safari 25FB, which should be similar to your 27FB. We have an 08 Dodge 2500 4X4, but it is a Power wagon and sits about 2" higher than your 2500 CTD 4X4.

I had to buy a new hitch shank, model 4400 from Equalizer (Progess Manufacturing), cost about $150. My guess is that your set up needs the 4300 model to get your hitch level. HINT: Remember, when you put pressure on the EQ bars, the front of the TV will lower and the rear of the TV will raise, so when you first hook up before the bars are installed, the tonque and hitch should be just a bit lower than level.

Progress has a sweet website that has a page with "plug in" values to help you determine the proper shank, it is a very good tool for getting the right shank. The website also has detailed description of the different shank models.

Bottom line, you will have about 1 1/2 inch clearance between the lowered tail gate and the jack, close, but no problem. BUT! If your TV is on an incline and the AS is on a flat pad, the tail gate will hit, only open the tail gate when the rig is level, or at least on the same plane.

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Time, the Equalizer site says Im either a 4300 or 4400 shank depending on if I go with 21 or 22 inches of TV height. Does you tailgate clear the jack, is the jack turned 90 degrees, or does the gate sit over the jack on the taller truck?

Too bad they didn't make a CTD in a Power Wagon model. That would have been one hell of a truck!

Thanks for the replies everyone!
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Time, the Equalizer site says Im either a 4300 or 4400 shank depending on if I go with 21 or 22 inches of TV height. Does you tailgate clear the jack, is the jack turned 90 degrees, or does the gate sit over the jack on the taller truck?

Too bad they didn't make a CTD in a Power Wagon model. That would have been one hell of a truck!

Thanks for the replies everyone!
Westfalia,

My tail gate does clear the jack, by 1 1/2 inch. The jack head is parallel to the tail gate, the jack is dark gray, with a small light on the front of the jack head. I can't remember the brand, but it was standard for 2006 models. I don't know if you have the same jack. If your jack head is perpindicular (90 degree) to the tail gate, you may not have as much clearance.

The 4300 almost worked for me, with it, the ball was about 3/4 of an inch to high with the hitch head in the bottom hole. The 4400 is dead on with the hitch head set on the second from the bottom hole. I have the ability to go down one more hole if I up-size the tires to taller 305/70/17 or 315/70/17 from the stock 285/70/17. I believe your stock tire is 265/70/17. The 4400 really reduces the ground clearance at the hitch head (bottom), so you may want to go with the 4300 for superior ground clearance.

Hope this helps.

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Well, the hitch fits and the tail gate goes down. I had to turn the jack head 90 degrees, but that was easy. The clearance is less than one inch, but an inch is as good as a mile. I'm not sure which hitch head I have. I'll look in the morning and post for future reference.
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Well, the hitch fits and the tail gate goes down. I had to turn the jack head 90 degrees, but that was easy. The clearance is less than one inch, but an inch is as good as a mile. I'm not sure which hitch head I have. I'll look in the morning and post for future reference.
Westfalia,

Good to see you were able to turn the jack head for enough clearance.

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I could now use a little help on this subject; I just purchased a Tundra to use with out 19' Bambi, and the tail gate hits the jack moptor housing. It looks like if I could rotate the jack housing 90 degrees, it would clear. I really do not want to add a longer shank to my equalizer.

Could someone please advise if rotating the jack motor housing 90 degrees is possible?

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