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07-27-2013, 01:20 PM
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#201
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Here she is, ready for the road. I cannot imagine anything towing better. This setup tows so well. I would love the opportunity to trade rigs with someone for a few miles for comparison and to prove a point. I wonder what a 3/4 ton diesel and a Hensley or ProPride would feel like. I just can't imagine that it could be that much better.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
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08-03-2013, 11:40 AM
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#202
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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What are your bars rated?
How many washers did you have to use? What is your tongue weight.
Thanks
Kelvin
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08-03-2013, 01:25 PM
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#203
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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4 washers...
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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08-03-2013, 01:26 PM
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#204
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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1,200# bars...
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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08-20-2013, 07:50 PM
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#205
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2 Rivet Member
1970 25' Tradewind
parkville
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 70
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Proper EQ for my TV and Tradewind
I have been doing a lot of research and have found the EQ to be my choice. One thing I am still uneasy about is what weight system should I use? the 6000Lb GTW / 600TW or the 10,000lb GTW / 1000lb TW? My TV is a 08 f150 4.6 2wd the AS 1970 25' TW. Any help with this would be appreciated. Also any pointers would be great. I have experience towing but its been 10 yrs. and we are almost ready to get this TW on the road.
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08-20-2013, 08:01 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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The 1970 Tradewind with double bed has a dry weight of 4,250 lbs. and a tongue wt. of 445. The twin bed model is 4,290 and 455. I don't have numbers for GVWR, but the 600 lb. bars sound ok to me.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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08-20-2013, 08:32 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 25' Tradewind
parkville
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 70
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Yea I cant seem to find the GVWR numbers anywhere. Thats part of why I hesitate. If you look at the model year that do have them listed it seems to be a fluctuation of a 1000-2000lbs GVWR and adds 1-200 lbs to the GTW. I dont see me exceeding 1000 lbs of additional stuff.
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08-27-2013, 10:36 AM
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#208
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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I have an old Snap On torque wrench that is rated to 250lbs but the large bolts on the head require 320ft/lbs. I guess you need a long extension to put the much torque on the nuts. I think the dealer only used a air wrench to put my Equalizer on. I could hear it going while we were inside going through the orientation. They showed me the trailer was level with the trailer hitched to the Tundra.
How many of you have added/removed washers yourself? What torque wrench did you use? It seems once you get over 250ft/lbs torque wrenches get very expensive.
Maybe I can rent one somewhere?
Or should I just take my truck with the Equalizer head to an RV repair and have them add the washer? How much change can I expect with one washer added to the 4 I have?
Thanks for any advice.
Kelvin
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08-27-2013, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I used to use Eq and did a lot of research....If I were in your shoes, I'd go 6000/600.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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08-27-2013, 11:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Kelvin, I just use a box end wrench and give it all I've got. Has never let me down.....but as I age, I'm not too sure what I had is still what I got.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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08-27-2013, 11:25 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Victoria
, BC
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 340
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
For me to switch to the teflon bracket jackets I'd have to purchase a set of the old pins to use them. The new style pins with the spring clip doesn't work with the current bracket jackets. Equalizer should come out with a new set of jackets.
Kelvin
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I recently added the Bracket Jackets.
I am able to use the new version pins by simply drilling a new hole in the pin near the tip & putting a Spring clip through that. It holds it in place & unlike the situation with the old pins, they do not fall down too low & get twisted.
I am not at home right now but can provide pics later in the week if my description is inadequate.
-evan
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08-27-2013, 02:02 PM
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#212
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
I have an old Snap On torque wrench that is rated to 250lbs but the large bolts on the head require 320ft/lbs. I guess you need a long extension to put the much torque on the nuts. I think the dealer only used a air wrench to put my Equalizer on. I could hear it going while we were inside going through the orientation. They showed me the trailer was level with the trailer hitched to the Tundra.
How many of you have added/removed washers yourself? What torque wrench did you use? It seems once you get over 250ft/lbs torque wrenches get very expensive.
Maybe I can rent one somewhere?
Or should I just take my truck with the Equalizer head to an RV repair and have them add the washer? How much change can I expect with one washer added to the 4 I have?
Thanks for any advice.
Kelvin
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Hi, I have changed my washer count to 6 1/2 washers. One of the washers that I used was about half as thick as the others. I tried seven but the angle was too much and six was not quite enough. To tighten the nuts and bolts on the hitch head, I use a double ended box end wrench to hold one side and a 1/2" breaker bar with a six point socket on the other side. I put a bottle jack under the hitch and stand on the breaker bar. That should be tight enough. I replaced all of the nuts and bolts with grade eight.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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08-27-2013, 03:02 PM
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#213
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2 Rivet Member
1970 25' Tradewind
parkville
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 70
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Just ordered the 6000/600 system. Thanks. I also have been doing a lot research. It seems to be a good match with the f150.
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08-27-2013, 03:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 25' Tradewind
parkville
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 70
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I also did find the gvwr in the the new owners manual I ordered. For my 70 tw.
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08-27-2013, 07:30 PM
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#215
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,638
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Kelvin,
The bolt that you tighten to keep the head unit tight against the washers only requires around 50 ft-lbs. It's not that big a bolt. If you went to 250 ft-lbs on it, you'd probably snap it.
Changing the washers is very easy. You just pull that bolt out, swing the head back, and you can pull out the fitting that the washers sit on. Nothing to it.
The only bolt on the EQ that gets torqued that much is the one holding the ball in place. I went to a truck shop that had the special thin wall socket that would fit, and an impact gun that could go up to 750 ft-lbs tightening (we went to 450 as per the directions). They didn't charge me anything. I can't imagine anyone wanting too much for this. It's a two minute job.
Anyway, don't fear the washers. They're a piece of cake.
Take care,
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08-27-2013, 08:48 PM
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#216
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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So you don't have to loosen the two 3/4" bolts that mount the head onto the receiver shank to add or remove washers?
Kelvin
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08-27-2013, 09:35 PM
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#217
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Boise
, Idaho
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 206
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Kelvin...yes you do. It has been awhile...but you may even have to remove one bolt to pivot back far enough. If you read Bob's post above...a half washer can make a difference...but once tuned in the hitch is great.
It took me a number of fine adjustments..but between the height of the hitch, the number of washers used and the position of the L brackets on the frame, there are a lot of options to get dialed in where it just feels right.
We take lots of short weekend trips...about 30 so far since purchase. I have not adjusted in about a year...I just make sure everything is lubed and torqued every few trips. I tend to just check for looseness rather than get out the torque wrench every trip.
I have been fortunate that my L brackets don't move around like some posts I have read. My particular adjustment with a Tundra keeps the L-brackets in upper position which eliminates some of that pivot leverage.
My EQ hitch which is only 2 years old has the L bracket mount that is drilled and tapped into the frame...not sure that the newer ones are.
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08-28-2013, 04:55 AM
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#218
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Can anyone tell me what size deep socket to purchase to remove the receiver/shank nuts? Thanks
Kelvin
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08-28-2013, 08:07 AM
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#219
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I'll look when I get home, but IIRC, it is 1 7/8".......but certain sectors of the old carbon based hard drive are bad.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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08-28-2013, 08:10 AM
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#220
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
I'll look when I get home, but IIRC, it is 1 7/8".......but certain sectors of the old carbon based hard drive are bad.
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Oops, thought you were talking about the ball shank.....sorry.
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