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Old 11-24-2004, 06:16 PM   #15
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I had the same problem

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I've towed my 25' Safari SS cross-country once with my Equal-I-zer and have to say that sway and weight distribution were great...or were they?

I did notice that the 5/8" square head bolt would loosen, not enough to fall out or allow the L-bracket to drop. However, even when I tightened the bolt (about 35 ft-lbs), there was still noticable movement at the bottom of the L-bracket, to the tune of about 5/8". This frustrated me because I thought how could the moving bracket (rocking back and forth within the pocket of the side plate) provide any anti-sway?

Being an engineer by trade, I ran some numbers (gotta love that!) and figured at roughly 2 degrees of "sway" (difference between trailer and tow vehicle), the bars would move approximately 1/8", at 4 degrees of "sway" the bars would move about 1/4" and at 6 degrees, the bars would move just shy of half an inch. Finally, at 10 degrees of "sway", I computed the bar's movement would have just exceeded the "slop" of the moving bracket!!

I found this to be extremely odd given that 10 degrees of sway is squarely in the realm of "white-knuckle" handling qualities.

I've contacted the manufacturer about this for their comments and they said that they were aware of the movement but didn't think it would adversly affect the anti-sway. But what about the numbers?

I've since found a "different" way of hooking up the side plates and L-brackets and have bounced it off of the manufacturer and they don't see a problem with my set up.

Just wondering if anybody else ever sat there and wondered why those dang L-brackets were so loose!
My Equalizer had the same problem with the loose L Brackets; I even lost one once and did not know it till I arrived at the campground and found a swinging WD bar! I solved that problem by adding a bolt at the top of the bracket that would prevent it from falling out. However, I could never figure a way to keep the L brackets from rocking; I was considering having them permanently welded so they couldn't rock but I just gave up and sold it on ebay. Nothing in the manufacturer's literature ever mentioned anything about rocking L brackets. I then bought a Reese Dual Cam which works great.
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:07 PM   #16
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Yowza. That "search" function works! Found some old threads that were very helpful with some Equal-i-zer issues. Works great, but boy is there a lot of moaning and groaning going on back there.
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:38 PM   #17
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Equal-i-zer WD Hitch with 4-Point Sway Control

For additional detailed info on the Equal-i-zer Hitch...
Especially deciding what size to get...Check out the link below...
And Equal-i-zer users: Let's elevate our knowledge base:
If you have been reading this thread and have an Equal-i-zer WD Hitch…
Please take a moment and go to "Community Polls" here:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f232/what-size-equal-i-zer-hitch-do-you-use-28204.html
And add to our knowledge base under thread, "What size Equal-i-zer Hitch Do You Use?"
The size of your Equal-i-zer Hitch (600# or 1000#)
Your tow vehicle model and size
Your trailer size… and why you like your hitch.

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Old 12-12-2006, 11:19 PM   #18
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Equalizer shifts.

I also opted for an Equal-i-zer due to its simplicity in design and use.
We have had a few problems such as the clamp plates shifting forward or aft on the 3" frame channels on our 19' rig.
On our Sequoia trip, I had to re-mount the assembly. On our Montana run, same problem but less so, shifting on both sides.
We called the plant, don't overtighten it they said, and perhaps weld two vertical guides to the frame to keep it straight.
I do like the performance and "feel" of the hitch though; trucks, winds, bumps and curves, it tracks great.
The trailer is in the shop for "adjustments" we'll let you know how it comes out.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:33 AM   #19
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I am no expert. I am actually new to all of this. But it seems to me after reading about and looking at the different systems that an active sway system would be better. The dual cam and the Hensley know where strait is and want to get back there. a friction sway control does not know center or strait. Can you back up with the sway bar connected?
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:14 PM   #20
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Greetings.

I store the arms in the trunk of the AS, and the main hitch/ball thing sits in front of the CCD door on newspaper. I keep it there so it is easy to get at, and that I don't forget to use it before pulling away

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If you are storing the "main hitch/ball thing" inside your trailer, I recommend that you set it on a piece of wood. I have a "bed blanket" in my truck bed and after 5 days of sitting on that, there are some nice dents that I hope will come back up now that the weight is removed. I wouldn't want those in the floor of my trailer.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:25 PM   #21
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I am no expert. I am actually new to all of this. But it seems to me after reading about and looking at the different systems that an active sway system would be better. The dual cam and the Hensley know where strait is and want to get back there. a friction sway control does not know center or strait. Can you back up with the sway bar connected?
What the Equal-i-zer does is stiffen the joint between the TV and trailer so that any side-to-side motion of the trailer is dampened. So far, I have to say that works very well for my TV/trailer combination.

No expert here either, and I'm not familiar with the dual cam or Hensley (the Hensley I was told was overkill for my set-up), but is there something spring loaded in those that pushes the parts back to center? That would be the only thing that would attempt to get you back to straight.

And, yes, you can back up with the Equal-i-zer bars connected.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:12 PM   #22
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Equal-i-zer is easy and effective!

You can drive all day with the Equal-i-zer, in any weather - no adjustments needed. When you get to your destination, you can back right into the prettiest spot without needing to do anything - then un-hitch as per normal. Simple normal occational checking on fastener tightness, and lube it... and away you go.

Easy!, very effective on the road, and 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the high end hitches...

Equal-i-zer for me!!! Come on in, the waters fine...! Join the crowd...

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Old 01-10-2007, 09:07 AM   #23
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Smile Equal-i-zer Review, Suggestions, and Questions

Just returned from our second time out with our trailer/TV/Equal-i-zer combination, and very pleased with the performance. I definitely recommend that you lube the hitch and ball per the manufacturer’s instructions. When we brought ours home the first time, it sounded like a machine shop was following us. This time there was hardly any noise at all. On the Equal-i-zer web site, you can purchase a small squeeze bottle of what they call socket lube. That’s what I used. I’m sure any good quality axel grease would work, but the small bottle fits nicely in the tool box. I also purchased one of their lost pin survival kits—my Boy Scout “Be Prepared” training.

Lubing the hitch had no apparent affect on the performance of the hitch. On this last trip, we drove through some driving rains and breezy days. Some of the roads were rutted from heavy traffic creating continuous puddles that create hydroplaning hazards. The trailer was very stable hitting these puddles at speed. Trucks passing, or us passing them (with one exception) had no more effect on the TV/trailer than just driving the TV alone. The one exception was car haulers. They seem to throw off a lot more turbulence than the 18-wheeler vans. Seemed like we encountered buffeting (but no control problems) for a longer period of time when they passed.

We did encounter the problem reported in this thread with loose L-brackets. One of ours kept coming loose, even though we tightened it before each day’s departure. Do you think coating the square head bolt with Loctite® Threadlocker Blue (or Red) would keep it tight?

My challenge now is addressing storage of the hitch head and bars now that they’re greasy. I have an idea for a wooden platform/cradle that I can set the head in, and maybe some covers for the cradle and bars. Then I could store the thing in the doorway of the trailer without damaging or dirtying the trailer floor when it’s in the storage yard, and not be tripping over it in my garage. If anyone has built such a thing or seen anything that could work, I’d love to see it. Whatever/whenever I come up with something, I'll share it with the group.
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:23 AM   #24
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I store the bars in the trunk area of the Bambi. I very carefully lay them in in there and usually they are resting on a coiled fresh water hose. The two ends of the bar are the dirtiest, but the way I position them, they don't come into contact with anything.

They will definatley not shift around, since they would have to be in use if the trailer is moving. Storage only.

Depending on where we are camped and how secure I feel the area is, I may just leave them out of sight against a tree, or somewhere in back of the AS.

If we are just spending a few nights somewhere and are staying close to the campground, I leave the hitch in the receiver. Otherwise it goes in the back of the van on newspaper that I will then "recycle" to start a fire.

In storage, the hitch sits on Airstream door mat covered with newspaper.

What I do that is really helpful is to take a plastic grocery bag and cover the hitch while still in the receiver. This keeps you and the place where you are going to store it from getting even dirtier, but I still use a pair of two dollar gloves from Home Depot when moving that chunk of iron.

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Old 01-10-2007, 10:36 AM   #25
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In storage, the hitch sits on Airstream door mat covered with newspaper.

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Jonathan,

Doesn't the hitch head dent the floor? I had it setting on my bed rug in the truck bed and it sure left some dents in that, but that is softer than the floor. That's why I was thinking of a wood cradle.

I like the grocery bag idea. I'll use that next time or until I build something.
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:50 AM   #26
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Between having the AS matt and alot of newspaper I have not really seen any marks. Besides, they'd be under the matt where I'd never see them anyway

I suppose you could get some bubble wrap and sandwich that in there somewhere. I also try to make sure that the hitch rests upright and sits on the bar socket thingies.

BTW- I keep all the l-brackets, cotter pins etc. together in a small wire mesh 3x5 index card box, and keep that next to the door next to the booze.

I too bought the emergency pin and part set from Equilizer. I figure if I have it, I won't need it...

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Old 01-10-2007, 11:11 AM   #27
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To store the Equal-i-zer in the back of our SUV, I took an idea from someone on this Forum and built a wooden box to hold all the parts. I disconnect the two square bars in put them in the box first. It's very easy to connect/disconnect the bars. Then, the ball hitch goes into the box. By separating the parts, I hope to pospone the hernia.

I should also get a second set of pins to keep elsewhere in the SUV just in case I lose one of these essential components.
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I have an older Reese setup with the Trunion style head. I store the arms in a rifle case that came from the PO. It fits out of the way under the bed, no mess and easy to use. I store the head in the trailer on top of a hard rubber welcome mat.
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