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03-06-2010, 07:16 PM
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ProPride Industries, Inc.
Commercial Member
Holly
, MI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
A $60,000+ trailer, just dropped on the ball, and towed.
Anybody want to buy an '010 Flying Cloud, cheap? Sway control not included, nor was it ever installed.
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Doesn't surprise me the slightest, Terry. I talk to people every week that do have sway "control" and do the same thing.
When the sway controls the situation it can be quite damaging.
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03-09-2010, 08:50 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Blaine
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 291
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Andy;
What is the cost of the Reese?
John
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03-09-2010, 10:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 685
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Well I just gotten thru 11 pages of this discussion and I have to admit now I'm a believer. I have a 2009 Flying Cloud 27FB towed by a 2001 F350 4WD 7.3 Diesel. It tows very well. I'm usually passing big rigs, not the other way around. None the less, the raised level of control seems worth the investment of the Reese. My WD hitch came with a friction sway control device that I knew inherently was near worthless. (I have a lot of experience with building vehicles.) Also, there seemed to be issues with very tight turns and backing up. So I never intalled it. I can't really afford the cost of a Hensley or ProPride, but the Reese dual cam seems like an affordable option. My question is: With the Reese dual cam, are there any issues with very tight turns or backing?
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03-09-2010, 10:57 AM
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Usually Sleepy
1973 27' Overlander
East Haven
, Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,155
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I've taken some very tight turns and only once, in a campground, did I have an arm "pull out" of the cam.
Backing is no issue.
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03-09-2010, 11:08 AM
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 738
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Skip, I believe hhendrix was refering to the "friction sway control" device that came with his hitch. They reduce the turning radius significantly. I got one for "free" with our trailer but discarded it long ago.
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03-09-2010, 01:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 685
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Thanks guys, let me clarify. The device pictured in newrosewell's post is the friction sway control I was referring to. I sold it. I knew there were turning and backing issues with the friction sway control. One dealer even told me to disconnect the friction sway control when backing. In light of that, are there any limitations to backing or turning with the Reese Dual Cam sway control?
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03-09-2010, 01:56 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Relentless
Andy;
What is the cost of the Reese?
John
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John.
We are not allowed to quote prices on anything that we sell or may sell.
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03-09-2010, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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03-09-2010, 02:56 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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I paid around 750.00 for a Reese W/D with Sway control bars Installed.
Shane
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03-09-2010, 03:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Owings Mills
, MD
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,125
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This reminds me... my Reese dual cam has some stiff bars. It isn't bad with my spongy half-ton Titan, but I'm a little nervous about a "buckboard wagon" 3/4 ton. I'm going to have to snoop around for some lighter bars, I suppose.
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03-09-2010, 03:37 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Originally Posted by hampstead38
This reminds me... my Reese dual cam has some stiff bars. It isn't bad with my spongy half-ton Titan, but I'm a little nervous about a "buckboard wagon" 3/4 ton. I'm going to have to snoop around for some lighter bars, I suppose.
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http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...-in-17984.html
I've gone one direction and then another on this subject. The rear springs on a DODGE are truly stiff in 3/4T. But the aftermarket makes spring sets with a softer "top" to them (DEAVER; more leaves, more progressive); so keep that in mind as well.
All I know for sure is multiple weighings and a dead-accurate set of TW readings to inform any changes.
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03-09-2010, 03:40 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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The hitch salesman tried to sel me 1000 lb bars for my sway, I settled for 800lb. I drive a F250 4x4. Rides great. I did the Jump test and it actually moves up and down 3plus inches. Would like to get a set of 600lb bars and do the jump test also.
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03-09-2010, 04:48 PM
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Usually Sleepy
1973 27' Overlander
East Haven
, Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,155
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggoofball
I've taken some very tight turns and only once, in a campground, did I have an arm "pull out" of the cam.
Backing is no issue.
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Originally Posted by hhendrix
Thanks guys, let me clarify. The device pictured in newrosewell's post is the friction sway control I was referring to. I sold it. I knew there were turning and backing issues with the friction sway control. One dealer even told me to disconnect the friction sway control when backing. In light of that, are there any limitations to backing or turning with the Reese Dual Cam sway control?
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I was answering for the Reese, so no, I find no limitations unless you are really really cranking a turn.
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03-09-2010, 04:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDNAX
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...-in-17984.html
I've gone one direction and then another on this subject. The rear springs on a DODGE are truly stiff in 3/4T. But the aftermarket makes spring sets with a softer "top" to them (DEAVER; more leaves, more progressive); so keep that in mind as well.
All I know for sure is multiple weighings and a dead-accurate set of TW readings to inform any changes.
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Do you have links for these products? Thanks!
Bob
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03-09-2010, 07:02 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hhendrix
Thanks guys, let me clarify. The device pictured in newrosewell's post is the friction sway control I was referring to. I sold it. I knew there were turning and backing issues with the friction sway control. One dealer even told me to disconnect the friction sway control when backing. In light of that, are there any limitations to backing or turning with the Reese Dual Cam sway control?
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Originally Posted by biggoofball
I was answering for the Reese, so no, I find no limitations unless you are really really cranking a turn.
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I found that it's a good idea to remove the arms before backing into a campsite. Not only can the bars pop out or bind inward in a really tight maneuver, it's really tough to get the bars off when trying to unhook, and your tow vehicle is still at a weird angle.
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03-09-2010, 07:23 PM
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Usually Sleepy
1973 27' Overlander
East Haven
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Good call about the odd angle removal Terry.
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03-09-2010, 07:39 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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I have the Reese dual cam with sway bars and have backed into my driveway,residential street, and get my angle VERY sharp. Have had no sway bar problems. Always leave mine on when backing.
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03-10-2010, 08:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1975 29' Ambassador
Reno
, Nevada
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,351
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One of the interesting 'comments' about sway control devices is that Reese, Blue Ox, and others have come out with their own versions of the Equal-i-zer - which makes one wonder what they know that some of the more vehement advocates in this thread don't.
One should also note from reading through this thread that sway control is a matter of perception and belief and not of measure and reason. None of the posts here really define what sway control is, what it actually does for the purported benefits, and how its effect could be measured in some reasonable way. That is also something to think about.
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03-10-2010, 08:48 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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No need to accurately measure it.....
When it's eliminated....
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