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Old 10-23-2011, 06:30 PM   #309
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Come come Bob, thats not valid. I have never experianced sway regardless the cause either, and I have nothing but a bare ball on my rig. And as ignorant & uneducated as some seem to think I am I know the fact that it hasn't happened with my Airstream doesn't mean it can't.
I have experianced violent glad to be alive sway in the distant past of my youth. That was caused by a very light tongue on a trailer that I had loaded. I quickly began to study the cause of my near demise & have modified my actions accordingly. Adios, John
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:02 PM   #310
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So, of the causes of sway, which of them will an anti-sway hitch likely help?
Sway is sway. How much does it help? I would rather not find myself in a out of control situation to find out. Cheap insurance.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:04 PM   #311
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The only thing cheap, has been your 2 cents on the topic.
None of this is scientific. Play along, why don't you?
I am "playing along"...I voted. But still don't like polls because in this instance, for example, even if everyone votes, means nothing about what hitch performs the best, or worst, just what is most popular.

It's almost as meaningful as asking people what is the best car made at a Chevrolet convention.

And sorry, I guess the word "cheap" was inappropriate. I should have said most plentiful.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:08 PM   #312
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My dad always said that those who discus politics, money, and religion will eventually make the worst of enemies from the best of friends.
Add motor oil to that list.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:13 PM   #313
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Were I to have a trailer, especially an AS, I'd find the best of the best sway bars. We've followed some "trailers" that were moving around so much, that we pulled over so we would not have to see it go over.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:26 PM   #314
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Well we just made it back from FL. We had no sway control going down and any speeds over 60 got me concerned. I used the friction sway control on the way back and it really helped. I was able to run 65 to 70MPH without feeling like I was going to get into trouble. I do think the friction system made rut handling worse. I think a lot of the problem with stability is that they make even trucks with very twichy sports car handling. It takes almost no movement of the steeing wheel to put you in another lane. The trailer is going to react to that quick movement with sway. Any type of jerk of the wheel and then a correction to get you back where you were is going to get that trailer swaying. Personally, I think trucks with very slow steering response at high speeds would be a good thing. Also making them return to center so they will tend to stay straight unless forced to turn would be good. My excursion and all large Ford trucks I have driven have no road feel. If you are not paying attention 100% of the time you will drift out of your lane. I think part of this is the twin I-Beam system Ford uses on the front of their trucks.

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Old 10-23-2011, 08:14 PM   #315
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I think part of this is the twin I-Beam system Ford uses on the front of their trucks.
You might do some checking to see when Ford quit making "twin-I-Beams"; it was a while ago, a long while ago.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:26 PM   #316
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I know this thread is about sway control, but the subject of truck steering has come up, and there is a relevance.

The one thing that I DO NOT like about my GMC 3/4 ton truck is the steering. It uses a steering box like days of old and has some play. Like Perry states it allows the truck to try to climb out of the 18 wheeler rutted roads, either one side or the other, and I am constantly working to prevent it from happening.

My pervious truck, a GMC 12 ton, had rack and pinion steering, and there was zero play, and so the truck drove like a sports car....very accurate. Why can't the manufacturers put good modern steering systems on 3/4 ton trucks?
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:27 PM   #317
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My theory is that I want "forgiveness". I want to be excused for inattention. And for adverse conditions. And for going too fast downhill, but I wasn't really going too fast, but something happened that made me wish that I was going much slower. I want to be able to slow quickly without the trailer trying to pass me and making my recovery efforts futile.

Not too much to ask. I bought a factory-refurbished Hensley because I believe in the buy-it-once theory. And because I bent a bracket on my old-style Reese dual cam and I don't know exactly when. But I think it was in Flaming Gorge the previous evening.

So - do you need sway control? I don't know. Suit yourself. I know I believed in it enough to buy it and would do it again tomorrow. Hensley or Propride, that is. Nothing else.

I also believe in the theory that your teenager won't believe how little control they have until they are scared by their first accident (or near accident). If they survive that, they will be much safer drivers as a result.

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Old 10-23-2011, 08:41 PM   #318
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Well it is against my religion to drive anything newer than 10yrs old. So 10 yrs old is new to me. I don't do the new trucks that you have to fill them with pee pee to get them to run.

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Old 10-24-2011, 05:23 PM   #319
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I wonder how many folks posting here, actually have experience with the various hitch types.

I happen to have experience with 4 of the 5 types.

Here's what's left of my friction anti-sway bar setup. 2500 RAM megacab (the last pic is the location of the rollover... yes, it was uphill):





Here's my Equal-I-zer setup:


The Hensley Arrow on my 2008 Classic:


and just the ball on my '65 Ambassador:


Friction bars are useless.
The rollover was the first (and last) instance of any sway with that rig- at all. At 65 mph, it was instantaneous- like cracking a whip, and uncontrollable.

Equal-I-zer was adequate, but felt much the same as my friction bar.

There is no substitute for the Hensley. The most solid, balanced towing experience, ever.

Nothin' but ball works well enough for the much lighter Ambassador (not even torsion bars)- but then, we don't take that one over 55mph... and once the refit is finished, and we're treking long distances, I'll install a ProPride.
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I wonder how many folks posting here, actually have experience with the various hitch types.
Now that'd be a good subject for a poll, if people would be honest.
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My first was the E-Z-Lift. Second was the Dual Cam (old style). Third is the Hensley. Would never go back to first or second.

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Old 10-24-2011, 09:00 PM   #322
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I did do some checking and the twin I-beam is still used on the F250 and F350 Ford trucks. I believe the 4x4 trucks went to a solid front axel a while back. My 92 F350 had a solid axel up front but the 4x2 was twin I-beam. My 2000 Excursion has twin I-beam.

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