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Old 03-11-2010, 09:09 PM   #183
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We've towed our 22 ft 2004 Airstream International AS without weight distribution or sway control for probably 4,000 mile without any problems. Really haven't felt the need for it. Pulls like a dream.

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Old 03-11-2010, 09:55 PM   #184
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We've towed our 22 ft 2004 Airstream International AS without weight distribution or sway control for probably 4,000 mile without any problems. Really haven't felt the need for it. Pulls like a dream.

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Old 03-11-2010, 10:26 PM   #185
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Apparently, some members feel that my statements about hitches and sway controls, is "hogwash".

Therefore I won't make any further posts about those 2 subjects.

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Old 03-12-2010, 12:31 AM   #186
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We've towed our 22 ft 2004 Airstream International AS without weight distribution or sway control for probably 4,000 mile without any problems. Really haven't felt the need for it. Pulls like a dream.
Welcome to the forums.
What does it say about this subject in your owner's manual for your Airstream? Our owner's manual specifies the need for WD, at the least.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:48 PM   #187
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Original sway bars? What the heck?

I have never used these things before. I have never owned an Airstream before either. I have a 2003 half ton Chevy pickup and a 1967 Globetrotter 20. Can someone point me to a good tutorial on these bars, how to install them, what they do, and what kind of receiver I need to buy? Should I use the old ones or get something new? Thanks, TJ
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Apparently, some members feel that my statements about hitches and sway controls, is "hogwash".

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Andy,

I for one appreciate your postings regarding hitches, sway control, and weight distribution bars. Thanks to you lighter weight bars were my first acquisition after buying an Airstream from a private owner. I encourage you to continue saying what's on your mind. Those who disagree are free to ignore your postings. If you save even one person from an accident the effort will be more than worth it.
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Andy,

I for one appreciate your postings regarding hitches, sway control, and weight distribution bars. Thanks to you lighter weight bars were my first acquisition after buying an Airstream from a private owner. I encourage you to continue saying what's on your mind. Those who disagree are free to ignore your postings. If you save even one person from an accident the effort will be more than worth it.
Count me in too. Andy's posts offer a wealth of learning and experience. So too do many other senior posters. I really appreciate the generosity of these folks sharing their advice and experience.
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Maybe Andy's Plasti-cote is pealing, he'll get it re-shot and be back, watch for him in other arenas.

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So my TV weighs 7000lbs. and I have a 22ft Safari. I was waiting till i had the camper finished before running it over to have it weighed. But I am guessing it could not weigh more than 2500lbs or so. Thus far I have towed it several hundred miles and on many local camping trips and so far, with no sway bars, it tows just fine. I am not one of those folks who keeps their camper loaded to the gills either. But I have never not once seen the back end of the trailer sway or not track properly. Like Shane, I would like to know what difference in safety is with or without it, and what sway / WDH would you guys recommend for a typical setup ?
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:17 AM   #192
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Apparently, some members feel that my statements about hitches and sway controls, is "hogwash".

Therefore I won't make any further posts about those 2 subjects.

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Me too, Andy. Even though you and I don't always agree on the FINER points....ya gotta keep talking the truth until perceptions and myth die out. Like others said, if folks don't like it ...let it go, you've done your part.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:03 AM   #193
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This whole sway thing seems like there is a one size fits all mentality. There are some Tow Vehicle / Trailer Combinations that are unstable in sway and some that are not. Does it make sense to add sway control when you already have a stable combination? In my opinion NO. If you don't have a tendency to fish tail when a truck passes or when braking hard I don't see a need for it. I have a Load Distributing Hitch but it is the old kind with the friction sway system which I think can do more harm than good, especially if it is old and rusty and may tend to bind. I am sure there are sway control systems that may actually help than hurt but my rig seems to be stable and adding something just as a knee jerk reaction does not make sense to me. Adding friction can cause more problems than it is worth because it can work for you or against you. As said above it has no brain. So what sway control system is worth investing in and can I add it to the hitch I have or do I have to start all over again?

Basic physics tells me that you can have an unstable underdamped system (not enough sway control) or you can have a properly damped system and no sway control. You can also have an overdamped situation that is not stable either.

Airstreams are among the most stable trailers out there. Truth of the matter is that an Airstream sitting on the ball with no load distrubution is more stable than an SOB top heavy trailer with all the stability control.

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This whole sway thing seems like there is a one size fits all mentality. There are some Tow Vehicle / Trailer Combinations that are unstable in sway and some that are not. Does it make sense to add sway control when you already have a stable combination? In my opinion NO. If you don't have a tendency to fish tail when a truck passes or when braking hard I don't see a need for it. I have a Load Distributing Hitch but it is the old kind with the friction sway system which I think can do more harm than good, especially if it is old and rusty and may tend to bind. I am sure there are sway control systems that may actually help than hurt but my rig seems to be stable and adding something just as a knee jerk reaction does not make sense to me. Adding friction can cause more problems than it is worth because it can work for you or against you. As said above it has no brain. So what sway control system is worth investing in and can I add it to the hitch I have or do I have to start all over again?

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Perry, I think you are missing one point. Although, yes, you can have a very stable rig w/o WD and sway control under normal driving circumstances, it's when thing are less than normal that things go bad very quickly.

When emergency maneuvers happen, oil on water, hydroplaning, unexpected traffic situations at high speed....etc. you find very quickly that you don't have control. I'd bet if you talk to 100 people who have had serious trailering accident, the one common thread would be, "I don't know what happened...it was so quick...the trailer just started coming around...."

Yes, it can happen with proper sway control and properly set up WD, but it's about risk reduction.

Your logic is a little like, " I don't need to get new brakes. The truck is stable and I always coast up to stop signs and slow down way before exit ramps." Yeah, that'll work....till you need them!
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I've had WD with the add on friction bar on lighter trailers; Equal-i-zer: and Reese dual cam.

Reese and Equal-i-zer both work well WHEN SET UP PROPERLY. EQ doesn't give the flexibility to purchase mix and match parts to fine tune an AS setup, so Reese is my current setup and prefered choice.

If ya got a lot of bucks, ProPride or Hensley are said to be excellent, but I have no practical experience.
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