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Old 03-09-2010, 05:57 PM   #155
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I've gone one direction and then another on this subject. The rear springs on a DODGE are truly stiff in 3/4T. But the aftermarket makes spring sets with a softer "top" to them (DEAVER; more leaves, more progressive); so keep that in mind as well.

All I know for sure is multiple weighings and a dead-accurate set of TW readings to inform any changes.
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Thanks guys, let me clarify. The device pictured in newrosewell's post is the friction sway control I was referring to. I sold it. I knew there were turning and backing issues with the friction sway control. One dealer even told me to disconnect the friction sway control when backing. In light of that, are there any limitations to backing or turning with the Reese Dual Cam sway control?
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I was answering for the Reese, so no, I find no limitations unless you are really really cranking a turn.
I found that it's a good idea to remove the arms before backing into a campsite. Not only can the bars pop out or bind inward in a really tight maneuver, it's really tough to get the bars off when trying to unhook, and your tow vehicle is still at a weird angle.
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:23 PM   #157
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Good call about the odd angle removal Terry.
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I have the Reese dual cam with sway bars and have backed into my driveway,residential street, and get my angle VERY sharp. Have had no sway bar problems. Always leave mine on when backing.
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One of the interesting 'comments' about sway control devices is that Reese, Blue Ox, and others have come out with their own versions of the Equal-i-zer - which makes one wonder what they know that some of the more vehement advocates in this thread don't.

One should also note from reading through this thread that sway control is a matter of perception and belief and not of measure and reason. None of the posts here really define what sway control is, what it actually does for the purported benefits, and how its effect could be measured in some reasonable way. That is also something to think about.
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No need to accurately measure it.....

When it's eliminated....
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:24 AM   #161
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I think its common sense that if you can reduce or eliminate the chance of 6,000 lbs. doing its own thing while attached to you and your loved ones at 60 plus mph than you should do so. If you can't afford a decent hitch that will do this then you might want to consider doing something else with your spare time.
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I think its common sense that if you can reduce or eliminate the chance of 6,000 lbs. doing its own thing while attached to you and your loved ones at 60 plus mph than you should do so. If you can't afford a decent hitch that will do this then you might want to consider doing something else with your spare time.
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... None of the posts here really define what sway control is...
only because those ISSUES have been addressed already in MANY other threads and several times...

books tend to improve with each edition or revision

by building on prior work, snipping OUT the errors and while incrementally adding new thoughts, ideas and solutions.

but repetitive new threads on common/old topics tend to ignore that process and ALL of the prior postings,

dumbing down with each new edition...

which is WHY these self help books were written...

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eventually we'll just be finger painting the info...

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Old 03-10-2010, 04:08 PM   #164
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I think its common sense that if you can reduce or eliminate the chance of 6,000 lbs. doing its own thing while attached to you and your loved ones at 60 plus mph than you should do so. If you can't afford a decent hitch that will do this then you might want to consider doing something else with your spare time.
Agreed; we've seen some very scary outfits blowing in the wind. So scary, we've taken the next off-ramp and had lunch or breakfast or whatever.
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only because those ISSUES have been addressed already in MANY other threads and several times...

.....eventually we'll just be finger painting the info...

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Gotta agree with ya.

When you look at the quality of some of the old threads, like this, the current thread just seems kind of hollow.

I think lots of people just got tired of the same old rehash with no new info, and it just keeps degenerating.
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I think lots of people just got tired of the same old rehash with no new info, and it just keeps degenerating.
What's important is knowledge; I belong to some professional forums and it is amazing how few people use the search function. We still give advice even though it's the same stuff over and over. You high posters should know that.
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One of the nice things about the "Forums", is that new people sign on almost everyday.

Those new owners have no idea what subjects may or may not have been discussed before. They also probably don't know the in's and out's of this Forums, as to "how to find things".

All of us were newcomers at one point.

Let those, new newcomers, ask away with the questions, as that's how all of us learned.

If an oldie doesn't want to read the repeat posts about old subjects, then so be it.

BUT, I feel that, as a group, we should not only welcome new comers, we should also try to help them better understand all about Airstreaming.

Where does it say, new comers should not have the same opportunity to learn on this Forums, as much as those have, who have been around for a long time.

Almost sounds like the older Forums members know, and that's as far as it should go. Maybe some of the old hot shots are not interested in the up bringing of new members.

I, for one, humbly disagree with that.

Everyone is welcome, and therefore everyone should have the same chance to learn.

If not, then the future of this Forums, quite well, may resemble the future of WBCCI.

I sincerely, hope not.

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only because those ISSUES have been addressed already in MANY other threads and several times...

books tend to improve with each edition or revision

by building on prior work, snipping OUT the errors and while incrementally adding new thoughts, ideas and solutions.

but repetitive new threads on common/old topics tend to ignore that process and ALL of the prior postings,

dumbing down with each new edition...

which is WHY these self help books were written...

Attachment 97869

and the advance materials...

Attachment 97870

eventually we'll just be finger painting the info...

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2air, your post count would be waaay low if all of your "use the search button" posts were deleted. Instead of pointing try leading.

Just say'n



I for one like the "live" information. Also go try searching for black tank problems in relation to a NEW airstream...Impossible. Most things here are related to Vintage repairs not too many new. It's a lot to weed through. The questions get answered a lot faster by posting and coming back to it. Sometime I do both, post the question then search. That way you get old info and fresh info.

Just say'n
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