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Old 07-30-2014, 12:34 PM   #85
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I'm picking up a new '15 AS in Sept....is it worth seeing if a "traditional" WD system with friction sway will do the job or should I just bite the bullet and start with a HA/PP? Also, what should I look out for if I was able to find a used Hensley?
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Oh, and now that we've added the bracket pads, we're hoping the bars will be less greasy and a little less groan-y. Recently, it sounded like we had a trailer full of zombies moaning and clunking behind us until I identified the source of the noise and applied just enough grease to quiet them down.
Of course, greasing the load bars is just what EQ recommends against ... as friction there is what provides the anti-sway. The pads are only on the lower surface of the bar / upper surface of the L-bracket, but grease spreads around the whole bar once in motion. YMMV.

Watch mixter's video again and heed those with experience with regard to WDH / anti-sway.
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:54 PM   #87
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I'm picking up a new '15 AS in Sept....is it worth seeing if a "traditional" WD system with friction sway will do the job or should I just bite the bullet and start with a HA/PP? Also, what should I look out for if I was able to find a used Hensley?
More info is needed. What size trailer and what is your toe vehicle?
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:35 PM   #88
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I don't want this to turn into a different type of conversation....let's just say most would consider my TV undersized in the traditional sense. Would the HA be more preferred in this type of scenario?
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:47 PM   #89
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I don't want this to turn into a different type of conversation....let's just say most would consider my TV undersized in the traditional sense. Would the HA be more preferred in this type of scenario?
If you are at 20' late model Airstream or larger and 1/2 ton truck or smaller you will really like the Hensley/ProPride. It transmits all sway forces to the rear axle of your tow vehicle rather than leveraging them to the front axle, eliminating any sway. Perhaps best described as like driving with no trailer attached. You can feel strong wind gusts and semis passing, but they don't move the trailer out of alignment with the truck.
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:08 PM   #90
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Thanks Doug, I think I'm just going to jump in and get a Hensley....I guess I won't know unless I try
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:40 PM   #91
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This is an opinion from experience, so please take it as such. When you apply brakes to stop or slow sway, instead of try to accelerate out of the problem, if your brakes are adequate, you have more braking power than engine power.
Accelerating will amplify the problem, and I promise, you won't like the outcome.
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:01 PM   #92
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Get a Hensley or ProPride. You will ask yourself,"why was I worried?"

Of course you are on your own about having the right Tow vehicle.

We do not know your background or experience level with "towing" so you assume full responsibility for your application.
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Good point about grease and the Equal-i-zer hitch, thanks. Feel free to get off your high horse before you fall and hurt yourself. Frequently Asked Questions

Now that we have the pads,we expect we'll not grease the bars anymore at the L-bracket. We've removed the grease from that area altogether and we're very happy to have been able to do so.

We still have to apply a little grease at the hitch head sockets in the pivot points where the WD bars insert into that component. If we don't, the creaking and clunking is so God-awful that it sounds like we're towing a trailer full of zombies. Heads turn like you can't believe, and we worry that something may be seriously wrong. It's honestly that bad. So, we apply just enough lubricant to those pivot points to put the zombies back to sleep. Per the FAQ, this is perfectly acceptable.

We've towed the trailer in some difficult circumstances (gusty 50-60 MPH crosswinds) and have had no trouble at all, so empirical evidence from having experimented on ourselves indicates we're OK for sway control with our hitch under conditions we're likely to encounter. We also lock our cruise control at 60 since we also know that speed kills, especially with ST tires.

That said, next time I buy a WD/Sway control product, it will probably be a PP so we can avoid all that zombie-related unpleasantness and get even better sway control.

The next question I have is whether I should also invest in a Class V Air Safe to help protect the trailer from all that slamming about and whether that provides a better ride for both truck / trailer and works with both an EQ and a PP. I would hate to buy Air Safe for EQ only to find that it can't be used with PP when I finally spring for one.
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Silvery Moon, the Air Safe will not work with the PP but I don't think you'll need it. The w.d. bars are tapered and more flexible than the EQ bars of the same size. We have used both hitches, the PP is a more gentle ride.
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Good point about grease and the Equal-i-zer hitch, thanks. Feel free to get off your high horse before you fall and hurt yourself. Frequently Asked Questions

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Yes, I can read, on the EQ site too ...(even called them several times over the last 20 years) ...and spent many years riding a a horse although some not so high!
No need for a sarcastic personal attack, Silvery.

Clean your glasses for heaven's sake . I stand by what I said before to not lubricate the load bars AT THE L-BRACKET. Lubrication there is distributed around the surfaces both on the upper portion of the L-bracket as well as working its way around the bars ... hence your issue with the grease. I did NOT say to ignore lubricating the sockets (generally with a lighter lube than grease - so that it will work into the joint) and my comments were directed at your original posting with reference to the pads and grease:
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Only trying to be helpful here to newer folks and prevent others from reading your comments and ending up with a greasy mess! A reminder to also check the torque on the socket bolts - it will drop as they wear in. YOU may now resume your saddled position in front of K-Mart... it's not too high.
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I have the Sway Jacket Brackets. It does cut down noise at the L-Brackets. I still maintain that my hitch noise is coming from the hitch head. When I lubricate the hitch head it quiets down for a while. All that popping and groaning means is it's doing it's job- but when you're driving up in the campground sounding like The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald everybody looks- as if theirs doesn't sound the same way-
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Silvery Moon, the Air Safe will not work with the PP but I don't think you'll need it. The w.d. bars are tapered and more flexible than the EQ bars of the same size. We have used both hitches, the PP is a more gentle ride.

Doug - I posted this before. Someone had asked this question and I emailed Sean about it. He didn't see any reason why you couldn't use an Air Safe with a PP. I'm having trouble posting a pic of his email, sorry.

Silvery - call Sean for more info.
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