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10-12-2015, 09:38 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Cat scale weights
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10-12-2015, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Very nice looking set up. Like the commercial storage end of your truck.
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10-12-2015, 10:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I'm thinking you need some more weight on the steer axle. I'm sure some of the pros will chime in.
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10-12-2015, 10:09 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hittenstiehl
Very nice looking set up. Like the commercial storage end of your truck.
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The truck is used for our dogs. Three on each side plus storage for training equipment, clothes, food etc.
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10-12-2015, 10:14 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwoodtx
I'm thinking you need some more weight on the steer axle. I'm sure some of the pros will chime in.
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That's what I was thinking but it's a struggle getting the one link on the wd bars.
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10-12-2015, 10:40 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Howard
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davadar
That's what I was thinking but it's a struggle getting the one link on the wd bars.
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You should be shooting to recover more front axle load with WD. From 50% to 100% depending on who you take advice from. I'd try for close to 100% recovery. To get more links on, hitch up and then use your AS tongue jack to lift the coupled rig as high as possible. Should be "easy" to get 2-3 links on there. Try it with 2, drive around, weigh then try with 3 and repeat. Confirm you are not exceeding axle loads (nameplate inside drivers door), assuming neither gives you trouble, pick the one that drives best. You may need to adjust your hitch setup to correct for level - with more WD applies you will tend to be more nose up.
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10-12-2015, 11:02 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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We do use the tongue jack to help to attach the wd bars. With our old 3/4 ton truck attaching to the 3rd link was easy. With the new 1 ton it's difficult to get just one link hanging down.
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10-12-2015, 11:05 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Max axle loads are 5600lbs for the front and 9375 for the rear.
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10-12-2015, 11:30 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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I would try for another 200lbs to the front, with the rig,(AS&TV) level at that setting.
But.....with the HD, 2500,D-Max a lot rides on how it rides. Put miles on each setting & chooze the one that werks best for you.
Bob
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10-12-2015, 01:18 PM
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2020 Classic 33
Box Elder
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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GM suggests a 50% restoration. ThevGM suggestion is based on measuring the height of the front fender (ground to bottom of the fender trim. Restores As mentioned how does it drive? From a weight standpoint your 1/2 link is pretty close to a 50% restoration of weight.
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2020 Classic 33 Twin, 2019 Ram 3500 Longhorn, ProPride
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10-12-2015, 03:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghaynes755
GM suggests a 50% restoration. ThevGM suggestion is based on measuring the height of the front fender (ground to bottom of the fender trim. Restores As mentioned how does it drive? From a weight standpoint your 1/2 link is pretty close to a 50% restoration of weight.
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Unless my math is wrong 1/2 link is 44% and 1 link is 55%. Both set ups seem to drive ok. Can it drive better? What's best for the trailer?
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10-12-2015, 03:53 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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...best for the trailer?
The AS doesn't really care as long as it's level and it's axle & tire ratings haven't been exceeded.
Bob
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10-13-2015, 04:33 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Same couple of rivets by the door seem to pop occasionally. I thought this maybe because of the hitch setup.
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10-13-2015, 06:09 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davadar
Same couple of rivets by the door seem to pop occasionally. I thought this maybe because of the hitch setup.
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Do you have helper springs or any suspension mods? Trailer wheels balanced? Running gear shake a common cause.
600/800lb WD bars would help soften the rear suspension ride.
Bob
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10-13-2015, 09:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,406
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davadar
Same couple of rivets by the door seem to pop occasionally. I thought this maybe because of the hitch setup.
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Ah... that is interesting information... which rivets 'pop'? When?
Several 'tire stores' around here say 'Oh, we do NOT balance TRAILER tires'... but I make them do it... and I watch them.
Next, I put 'Centramatics'.. which smoothed out the ride tremendously.
I have lost NO rivets... since then. running 1400# bars on ProPride (previously EzyLift) system.
On 2012 Dmax, 2500 HD I restored 'steer axle' weight so that the front was at the same height as without AS attached.
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WBCCI# 30676
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10-14-2015, 12:39 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Langton
, Ontario
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 37
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Thanks, new tires are in order for the spring and I'll start researching Centramatics
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