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01-01-2017, 09:57 PM
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cazual6
Too many threads on this matter to find what I am looking for. Mind giving me some pointers on which YOU think is best?
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What, me worry?
For a 19’ Airstream, you needn’t worry about a propride nor a hensley... unless you’re towing with a bike... then you’ve got some other issues to deal with. Check with CanAm for details on that...
Save your money. Reese, Equalizer, etc. are fine hitches for a small trailer. Main issue with a single axle isn’t so much weight distribution but anti-sway. And that also depends upon what you’re towing with... (think tail wagging the dog scenario...).
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WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
The trouble with trouble is it always starts out as fun...
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01-01-2017, 10:20 PM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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If the tail is wagging the dog, you are in, or nearly in an oscillating sway condition. You have a trailer issue, not a tow vehicle issue..
Often people will experience this and will buy a bigger tow vehicle to try to make it better. The problem is in the trailer balance, weight distribution, or the hitch. Get the trailer balanced first, and ensure the running gear is good.
Sufficient weight on the hitch ball is needed, which actually represents moving the center of gravity forward, so the leverage the swaying trailer exerts on the hitch ball is minimized. But not so much weight as to overload the hitch connection.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
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01-01-2017, 10:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Have a look at this... gives good visual modeling explanation.
https://youtu.be/v2otJAgYiTo
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WBCCI# 30676
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01-02-2017, 09:09 AM
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#44
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxon
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What, me worry?
For a 19’ Airstream, you needn’t worry about a propride nor a hensley... unless you’re towing with a bike... then you’ve got some other issues to deal with. Check with CanAm for details on that...
Save your money. Reese, Equalizer, etc. are fine hitches for a small trailer. Main issue with a single axle isn’t so much weight distribution but anti-sway. And that also depends upon what you’re towing with... (think tail wagging the dog scenario...).
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You've read my previous post? actually, one of my plan I was gonna upgrade to a bigger rig and a new TV, thus I wanted to get a new setup
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01-02-2017, 09:16 AM
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf
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Great video
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01-02-2017, 10:28 AM
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#46
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Golden
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 915
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cazual6
You've read my previous post? actually, one of my plan I was gonna upgrade to a bigger rig and a new TV, thus I wanted to get a new setup
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02-23-2017, 11:26 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Decatur
, Texas
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 53
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For what it's worth, I have been using the Blue Ox "Sway Pro" for about 8 months now and getting very close to shelling out the $$ for a ProPride. 95 - 98% of my towing experience has been fine with the BO but the other times sway does happen and "white knuckles" are not pleasant. Sometimes it is because I get over 65mph, sometimes strong gusty headwinds and crosswind, sometimes uneven pavement, and sometimes even turning, never real bad sway but enough that forces you to slow down to 60mph or even 55mph to eliminate...
I know some will try to point to how I set it up, but I have tried everything that makes any sense to me with little to no benefit - talked with BO, and have read a ton of Forum Threads. Maybe it's the combo of a F-150 and the 23FB but I think I need something different/better.
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04-19-2019, 08:27 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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A Fact about 'best'...
All "best" statements made here are an individuals opinion, and as such they cannot be proven as fact.
I use a Hensley, it's not a fact that it's the best, it's just my opinion.
What IS a fact, it eliminates sway.
I can explain that, I cannot understand it for you...I did not understand either...until I towed the AS.
Does everyone need a PPP? Certainly not...
Bob
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04-19-2019, 08:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 28' Flying Cloud
2014 22' FB Sport
Davie
, FL
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 904
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The ProPride is a very nice hitch, an ingenious way to emulate a 5th wheel trailer. The main problem is its cost:
hitch $3,000
installation $1,000
hernia repair, right side $10,000
Hernia repair, left side $10,000
total $24,000
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04-19-2019, 09:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 33FB Classic
2019 30' Flying Cloud
Katy
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 788
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Quote:
Originally Posted by out of sight
The ProPride is a very nice hitch, an ingenious way to emulate a 5th wheel trailer. The main problem is its cost:
hitch $3,000
installation $1,000
hernia repair, right side $10,000
Hernia repair, left side $10,000
total $24,000
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Too funny....
Actually, you can save your thousand dollars and do a self-install. Go over to YouTube and watch an unintentionally hilarious video by a guy named Steve B who documents his Propride self-install. If he can do it, anybody can....and as a bonus, you'll learn lots of things to NOT do during the installation!
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2020 GMC 3500HD Duramax AT4
ProPride 3P
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04-19-2019, 10:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Best Weight Distribution with Anti-sway
I installed mine with the assistance of 18-year old daughter to just hand me tools and read the directions again. Used a bottle jack and a floor jack to lift and hold the heavy bits. I was 68 years old at the time. No hernia either.
Just read the manual before you try to install it. No one will confiscate your ‘man card’ if you do so.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-23-2019, 03:08 PM
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Michael Wild
1978 31' Sovereign
1984 31' Airstream310
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by out of sight
The ProPride is a very nice hitch, an ingenious way to emulate a 5th wheel trailer. The main problem is its cost:
total $24,000
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lol Awesome reply!
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04-23-2019, 03:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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I also installed mine. It was good for me to do so as I learned about the hitch. I have read the MANY write-ups on the ProPride on the forum. I will say that it certainly stopped my sway and makes the trailering experience a great one. The ONLY negative I have is that I struggle with the unhitch/rehitch when there is not a straight-shot situation. I have recommended the hitch to many people.
Like everyone else, I wish the hitch were less expensive. I have spent over half of what I paid for the entire trailer on updates and accessories including the hitch.
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04-23-2019, 04:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Best Weight Distribution with Anti-sway
I don’t know where ‘out of sight’ got that number. My ProPride cost around $2,400 or so. Must be a serious typo. Overall, it was sturdier and considerably less expensive that a similar system from Hensley Manufacturing.
I did ask for, and receive a prompt substantial ‘ex-military’ discount from Sean.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-23-2019, 08:11 PM
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2020 Classic 33
Box Elder
, South Dakota
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,731
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Turns out that outta sight is out of mind. Admitted on another PP thread he doesn’t have/had a PP. Troll?
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2020 Classic 33 Twin, 2019 Ram 3500 Longhorn, ProPride
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04-23-2019, 08:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Possibly some one with a strong opinion accompanying a lack of specific knowledge. It happens.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-24-2019, 07:55 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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I never understood....
.....the negative initial cost thing.
How much have you spent on the AS itself with all assorted 'gotta haves?
The safety of you and yours, and fellow travelers should be at the top of the list.
Our haha has cost $230/yr so far and is going down every year.
The learning curve is there for sure, the design requires it. But it's not difficult and once a routine is established it becomes second nature.
The installation? Study the manual, familiarize yourself with the terms and parts, anyone can do it with a basic tool kit, and as noted above, you will learn a lot about the design and maintenance of the hitch itself.
Plus... it's just more fun towing with a PPP...😂
Bob
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04-24-2019, 08:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,654
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How did this devolve into all the PP fans lining up?
Best is subjective. Best value? Best hitch to show your friends?
Best money saver?
"I never have sway with my PP."
"Great, I never have sway with my Equalizer, and I have $3000 extra in the bank."
"Don't come crying to me when your Airstream flips over."
"I promise I won't."
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04-24-2019, 08:36 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
How did this devolve into all the PP fans lining up?
Best is subjective. Best value? Best hitch to show your friends?
Best money saver?
"I never have sway with my PP."
"Great, I never have sway with my Equalizer, and I have $3000 extra in the bank."
"Don't come crying to me when your Airstream flips over."
"I promise I won't."
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We are all free to rationalize as we see fit....This is the interweb after all, a fact free zone.😂
Only opinions allowed.👍
Bob
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04-24-2019, 08:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Threads evolve. OP started this in 2016 - and in all that time I’ve forgotten now - what did you end up with Cazual6? I remember you started an experiment with bikes that you learned you wanted to do a different way. What hitch did you end up with and do you like it? Why/why not? Did you start with one and go to something different?
“Best” is dependent on an incalculable mix of your planned use, your goals, objectives, and constraints.
Short answer to this from any individual is almost always “the thing I’m using now” [emoji3]
Ask “why?”. If they can’t tell you their rationale or the parameters that were important to them, discount the advice. The value isn’t in the brand selected, the value is in understanding the thought process, context, and individual questions that led to the conclusion...
Oh, and get a ProPride [emoji3] (sorry, that’s obligatory dad-joke level comedy in these threads)
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