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Old 06-12-2018, 07:25 AM   #1
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Bent Weight Distribution Bracket???

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I bottomed out my 19' Flying Cloud on an incline in our ashpalt driveway last night. I'm not 100% sure if this is what bent the snap up bracket for the sway bars but I figure it had to be.



The sway bars on the WDH are the lowest point on the trailer. There are no signs of any scratches or dings anywhere. Just this bent bracket.



My assumption is that when I bottomed out the sway bar hit the asphalt and forced this bracket up and bent it.



Has this happened to anyone here?



I suppose it is possible that the bracket was bent before I bottomed it out, but that seems unlikely considering the amount of force required to bend the steel like that.

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Old 06-12-2018, 07:43 AM   #2
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Similar thing happened to me some years ago. Towing a '85 Airstream 30'er we were in Hermann, Missouri. Now, Hermann is very hilly with some steep inclines. After driving to the winery at the top of a hill I must have stressed something and mangled one of our brackets. Anyhow, arriving to camp that night I was not able to disconnect easily. In the morning I removed the brackets, unhooked and went to a trailer parts place and got new ones.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:50 AM   #3
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Similar thing happened to me some years ago. Towing a '85 Airstream 30'er we were in Hermann, Missouri. Now, Hermann is very hilly with some steep inclines. After driving to the winery at the top of a hill I must have stressed something and mangled one of our brackets. Anyhow, arriving to camp that night I was not able to disconnect easily. In the morning I removed the brackets, unhooked and went to a trailer parts place and got new ones.
Ok. Thanks. So it is possible for the brackets to bend without a bottoming out situation.

I have replacement brackets on the way from etrailer.com.

I'm hoping that it's not the setup that bent the bracket, but I guess I won't know until traveling with the new brackets and not bottoming out again!
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:27 PM   #4
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Glad you ordered new ones...I had one bend and I tried to bend it back...no go.


Follow install instructions carefully...once the bolt contacts the frame, just a quarter turn or so is needed. People (ahem, me) make the mistake of tightening too much, which actually forces the bracket open and it will slip/rotate under load.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:32 PM   #5
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Is that where the bolt was threaded to when it was installed? Because, from the picture it looks like if you were to unbend the bracket you would not have nearly enough space between the bolt and bracket for the frame. Did you install or someone else? If I had to guess I'd say it was bent during installation.


BTW, you can drill a hole in the frame and install a self tapping (I think) bolt in the hole on the front for a better, more permanent mounting solution. It's in the Reese instruction manual.
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As a further note...how long were those brackets on problem-free? They do have the look of ones that had bolts overtightened, and 'opened' up just enough... and finally the right conditions were applied bottoming out in your driveway, and the tension of the bar twisted the bracket and really bent it. I don't believe the bracket contacted the ground, that would be one heck of an angle.
So again, only tighten the new ones as specified by the manufacturer. It's counterintuitive. The bolts are are really only there to hold the bracket from sliding back and forth on the frame.
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Glad you ordered new ones...I had one bend and I tried to bend it back...no go.


Follow install instructions carefully...once the bolt contacts the frame, just a quarter turn or so is needed. People (ahem, me) make the mistake of tightening too much, which actually forces the bracket open and it will slip/rotate under load.
Yessir. Thank you for the heads up.
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Is that where the bolt was threaded to when it was installed? Because, from the picture it looks like if you were to unbend the bracket you would not have nearly enough space between the bolt and bracket for the frame. Did you install or someone else? If I had to guess I'd say it was bent during installation.


BTW, you can drill a hole in the frame and install a self tapping (I think) bolt in the hole on the front for a better, more permanent mounting solution. It's in the Reese instruction manual.
Thank you. On one side of the frame there is a hole that would fit a bolt in-line with the bracket itself. There isn't a hole on the other side.

I do believe I over-tightened. I didn't read the Reese manual. Thanks again.
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As a further note...how long were those brackets on problem-free? They do have the look of ones that had bolts overtightened, and 'opened' up just enough... and finally the right conditions were applied bottoming out in your driveway, and the tension of the bar twisted the bracket and really bent it. I don't believe the bracket contacted the ground, that would be one heck of an angle.
So again, only tighten the new ones as specified by the manufacturer. It's counterintuitive. The bolts are are really only there to hold the bracket from sliding back and forth on the frame.
thank you. the bracket didn't contact the ground but the bars did. I do believe I over-tightened.
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In the future, good practice is to remove the WD bars when encountering any "extreme" angles where the TV and TT will be twisting side to side or significant transitions of angle over a short distance. Likewise, its generally good to remove the bars before leveling the TT for parking, I learned this the hard way and now remove the bars while on the level roadway before backing into the camp site.
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In the future, good practice is to remove the WD bars when encountering any "extreme" angles where the TV and TT will be twisting side to side or significant transitions of angle over a short distance. Likewise, its generally good to remove the bars before leveling the TT for parking, I learned this the hard way and now remove the bars while on the level roadway before backing into the camp site.


Yes. Thank you. Iím about 2000 miles into our AS towing experience, so learning as we go. Glad to have this forum.
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Is that where the bolt was threaded to when it was installed? Because, from the picture it looks like if you were to unbend the bracket you would not have nearly enough space between the bolt and bracket for the frame. Did you install or someone else? If I had to guess I'd say it was bent during installation.


BTW, you can drill a hole in the frame and install a self tapping (I think) bolt in the hole on the front for a better, more permanent mounting solution. It's in the Reese instruction manual.
I would not recommend drilling a hole in the frame. Holes create a sever stress concentration which can form craks.
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I would second the no drill recommendation. the A frame on a 19 is only channel iron and not the square tubing found on larger AS's.

What are you towing with?
I tow our 19 with a Tundra and no WD system.
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Some folks will weld a "marker" on each side of the A-frame to show the correct placement of the snap-up brackets. Just a little bump on the top of the frame. That will verify that they haven't slipped, and if you remove them to paint, etc. it is easy to reinstall.
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