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Old 01-03-2010, 12:42 AM   #15
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I know that, if I were towing $80,521 behind me, I'd want a bigger tow vehicle than a Tundra. I'm not knocking Toyota; they're fine vehicles, but when it comes to towing big trailers, you can't beat Detroit Steel (yeah, I know that they're built elsewhere, Joe, LOL)!

I've owned a Big Block Suburban, a couple Dodge Rams and a King Ranch F350 (you can see them in my Registry). My 2005 2500HD Dodge Ram Cummins Turbo Diesel was the perfect tow vehicle for us, and if I hadn't been in such a damned cut-my-nose-off-to-spite-my-face mood that day, I'd still have it. The King Ranch is a bit more than I need to tow our 31' Sovereign, but we also tow a steel gooseneck Thoroughbred trailer, and I always felt a bit uneasy towing that with the Dodge.

The biggest problem I've had with our King Ranch is the 6.0 engine (we're on the 2nd engine and 2nd turbo). A few common sense (and illegal) mods have made it a reliable engine now. If you wait until the 2011 models come out, Ford will have their new in-house diesel, which they call the Scorpion. It will be a 6.7L V8 and supposedly free of all of the International demons that have plagued Ford, since 2003.

Good luck with your decision.

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Old 01-03-2010, 09:49 PM   #16
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I don't know where or how much I will tow, based on past life probably a lot and far. Plan to take off in fall and return to NW for warm boating. The Tundra is fun to drive and I can park it in normal spots-worth a lot. You folks have convinced me to get a 3P hitch. I have a Leer shell, at most two people and no pets, a couple bikes. Not a fan of collecting stuff. The scale will tell the tale. Thanks to all for the imput

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Old 01-03-2010, 10:18 PM   #17
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...You folks have convinced me to get a 3P hitch...
well there's a thread about too...

best of luck with the new model

and we'll look forward to the pictures when she arrives.

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Old 01-04-2010, 12:55 AM   #18
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I have an '06 30' Safari (predecessor to the Flying Cloud) with the front bedroom/bunk house configuration. I do use an F-250 PSD to tow with, but that is a different thread. I use a 1000# Equal-i-zer brand hitch and have had no problems with sway in any conditions that I have towed. Mostly interstates with semis galore. and towing at interstate speeds.

I haven't seen the plan of the new 30 Flying Cloud, but I would venture to say that a 1/2 ton will suffice. Rich Lhur towed his 30' Bunkhouse with a Nissan Armada for more than 60K miles. You may want to look him up in the members' section of the forums and ask him about his experiences. I have thought a good bit about adding auxiliary mirrors and a brake controller to my wife's Expedition so we could tow with it as a backup. However, the fuel economy is considerably better with my diesel than her 5.4L would get.

Again, without seeing the specs on the new 30' FC, I would suggest going with the 1K Equal-i-zer hitch and your Tundra and see if you feel you need more hitch or truck.

Congratulations on your new Airstream and good luck with decisions.

Oh yeah, I agree that the full awning package is worth every penny. We have the full package on our 30' Bunkhouse and really enjoy them for both privacy and heat control.
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:42 AM   #19
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Timbren(sp?) load boosters

We added these to our Tacoma and they are avaliable for the Tundra.
They are easy to install and only used if you have the extra load when they are needed. Congratulations on your new Airstream.
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:21 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by unsui View Post
This is my first post. I am having a 30' Flying cloud (new model with lounge chairs) built-due to be completed and delivered to dealer in Oregon early February. I have a 2010 Toyota Tundra I will use as TV. This is my first trailer and towing experience. Have cruised for the last five years on a sail boat. Plan to spend winters traveling on the road and summers on the water.
The dealer is recommending a equalizer hitch 1000. I am upgrading to 40# aluminum propane tanks, boondocking kit, and removing microwave oven.

Any recommendations???
I'd highly recommend fitting the trailer with 50A service...

IME, 30A in a trailer this size is ridiculous
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:24 AM   #21
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More of my opinion

We have an '01 25 ft excella, and until just recently towed it with an '07 GMC EX cab, 1/2 ton, tow package, 5.3L V8, 4.10 geared. With my wife and I in it, a camper cover, fuel, two bicycles, a few needed tools, and the tongue weight of the trailer and hitch, it was slightly over GVWR. It towed fine. That is until the conditions weren't "just right", such as on hills it would be down to 55mph in second gear, on any hill in high altitude it would be slow going, or if the wind was blowing an unfavorable direction, it was slow going. We got everywhere we wanted to go with that truck pulling the 25 footer, even some places others wouldn't go because of the terrain. However many times is just wasn't pleasant to drive.

So, I traded that truck for an '08 3/4 ton Diesel, and now it's a pleasure to drive anywhere we/ve been, and it gets slightly better feul mileage when towing.

Now, my opinion.....I personally would not tow any 30' trailer with any 1/2 ton truck for any measurable length of time. Can you "get by" with it? Yes. Will you enjoy it? Probably not. Will it be safe? Yes, but only if you are very careful.

This "opinion" is based on experience.
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:27 AM   #22
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My son in law, tows his SOB; similar weight as my AS, with a 5.7 T. 2008. His tires are stressed (down to tread marker) he also thinks his has stressed his drive-train. It is a good truck, however, as I mention to him: It is a 1/2 ton trk. With tongue weight and loaded, etc; he has been well over the limit. He is now starting to see the damage. He mostly trailgates at football games . Mel
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:43 AM   #23
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I personally wouldn't tow a 30 foot trailer for any distance with a half ton truck even though it may be barely rated for it but I tow in the high mountains a lot.
However, good luck with your new rig. You should be fine if your towing is mostly on the flat.
Other threads have complained about brake discs warping on their Tundras. When that happens, you get an anoying shudder in your brakes and much reduced performance. I am not picking on Tundra's, it is a fairly common problem. It happen on my Excursion and I have never towed over 6000 lbs and use lower gears and an exhaust brake on the downgrades.
I specked out a Sequoia (suv version of Tundra) on the internet. An option is the TRD High Performance Upgrade for your brakes. If I buy a Sequoia to tow my 6000 gvw Safari, I will buy this option even though it will set me back $2800.

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