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Old 05-31-2013, 03:42 PM   #71
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Pickup trucks are made to carry a load so it seems to me that when the front of the truck is brought back down to unloaded height and the rear of the truck is a little lower than the unloaded height and the trailer is level than I have a good setup. If I have to turn this into rocket science than that will take all the fun out of the Airstream experience for me. I am just a retired natural gas company worker how has spent 40 years in the field trying to make the office engineer's ideas work.
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Old 05-31-2013, 03:48 PM   #72
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Pickup trucks are made to carry a load so it seems to me that when the front of the truck is brought back down to unloaded height and the rear of the truck is a little lower than the unloaded height and the trailer is level than I have a good setup. If I have to turn this into rocket science than that will take all the fun out of the Airstream experience for me. I am just a retired natural gas company worker how has spent 40 years in the field trying to make the office engineer's ideas work.
I think most people here will agree with that setup being good. At least, that is how I setup my hitches with a pickup.
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:02 PM   #73
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Pickup trucks are made to carry a load so it seems to me that when the front of the truck is brought back down to unloaded height and the rear of the truck is a little lower than the unloaded height and the trailer is level than I have a good setup. If I have to turn this into rocket science than that will take all the fun out of the Airstream experience for me. I am just a retired natural gas company worker how has spent 40 years in the field trying to make the office engineer's ideas work.
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I think most people here will agree with that setup being good. At least, that is how I setup my hitches with a pickup.
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If not sure or load changes...a trip to the CAT's

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Old 05-31-2013, 06:35 PM   #74
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Yup. What they said. Just curious as you mentioned scales. Enjoy and safe travels!
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:34 PM   #75
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Yup. What they said. Just curious as you mentioned scales. Enjoy and safe travels!
Scales aren't really important unless your interested in knowing if you've overloaded your axles, tires, receiver... you know those pesky little tings.

But yes... it can be set up without knowing any of that.

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Bob - I had to go a few times just to see for myself. I won't lie - first time, I ticked off the lady running the scales cause I had no idea what I was doing and then Ron Gratz ACCURATELY guessed my personal weight based on the data I posted here :-) but I'm glad to know for my setup how it works. Now I just tinker around a bit based on those first few runs. But I think the process of returning the front fenders to their original height is a great starting place and close enough for jazz.....
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:53 PM   #77
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Steve and all; this is how I also set up my trailer /TV .
Comments on "hitch wear" Andersen ball has wear on back towards trailer, some chain wear, but most trouble with the shackels coming unthreaded at wing and chain receiver moving; I haven't welded or bolted them.
I still have my Equlizer, so I checked it. The ball has most wear on the front, towards TV, and some on the shank towards the trailer. I also had trouble withe the stabilizer brackets moving. Yes, I tried Gene's (?) method with the tubing n the bolts. At one time the bracket moved enough that the Equ. bar came off the rest. I also used this hitch on my AS 30 ft. and I believe that it caused the crack in the body at the battery boxes. I had 1K bars. I will say that the hitch performed as advertised fro sway and etc.
Which do/did I like best; The Andersen because of weight. Installation on both was about the same.
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From my own experience of using the Andersen with a pickup truck and reading about other peoples experience of the Andersen with SUVs and sedans, that the Andersen may be better suited for use with pickup trucks and full sized vans because they are built to haul weight. If most SUVs and most sedans built with four wheel independent suspension to give a softer car like ride, they may be better off to use a Hensley or Pro Pride.
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Bob - I had to go a few times just to see for myself. I won't lie - first time, I ticked off the lady running the scales cause I had no idea what I was doing and then Ron Gratz ACCURATELY guessed my personal weight based on the data I posted here :-) but I'm glad to know for my setup how it works. Now I just tinker around a bit based on those first few runs. But I think the process of returning the front fenders to their original height is a great starting place and close enough for jazz.....
I used measurements the first time towing the Classic, got us within 100lbs on the steering axle, the system does work well if done carefully.
I've PO'd several CAT ladies also, when I feel it's needed I try to stop late at night if the scales are well lit.

Thing is with us, if its a "trip" and we're not dock'n the loading is much different. After 10yrs with the Classic I can usually get the WD set to avoid the white knuckles, but the scale just eases my anal brain.

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In preparation for a 4,000 mile trip through New England and back, I hitched up my trailer yesterday for a forty mile test run. I have only towed a couple thousand miles with my Andersen hitch setup this Spring. I still can't believe how easy it is to install, how quiet it is, how it totally stops porpoising, and improves the ride of my pickup. Interstate trucks did not even make the trailer shudder as they passed. I do have to put a sticker on my dash to remind me that my combination is now fifty feet long. I realize the Andersen is not for everyone, but for those of us with the right equipment, it is terrific. My trailer is only 6,000 pounds, my pickup is a long bed 2500. Great combination for towing.
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Rendrag, considering your truck and medium weight trailer, I suspect your experience with the Andersen would be very similar if you towed without any weight distribution hitch.

I don't know about 3/4 ton trucks but my 1/2 ton with Andersen was surely pushed by passing semi's, quite severely if there was a stout crosswind from their direction. It didn't sway but it was not especially comfortable at times either.

As for weight distribution, you may have stiff enough suspension you hardly notice the Andersen is challenged to manage it.

The reduced spring bar bounce was, to me, the greatest asset of the Andersen hitch. But with no weight distribution hitch you wouldn't have much either. And it does not eliminate porpoising; it just does not have the spring bar reaction. The cost of this in my experience is almost no flexibility in the connection, leaving it up to your hitch receiver and trailer A-frame to take the vertical movements from the roadway.

My sense is this hitch is a couple of brilliant ideas poorly developed, and unsafe in some applications such as recent Airstream couplers. Perhaps others, the company has left too much experimentation and innovation up to us as users. It is a poor substitute for a genuine weight distribution hitch.

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Great combination for towing.
As hard as a few will try they can't disprove the results the majority are having with the Andersen. Yes there is a problem with the Atwood coupler. Revolutionary changes often present questions and compatibility issue for those hung up on older technology. There are some in the world still using the "Abacus". Yes there are compatibility issues with it and Excel. And yes they may get the right answer with that older technology but long after the rest of us have moved on.
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Rendrag, considering your truck and medium weight trailer, I suspect your experience with the Andersen would be very similar if you towed without any weight distribution hitch.

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You got it! People that depend on any hitch to supplement a soft suspension, or rely on them to push every last pound to the front or trailer axles might be disappointed by the Andersen. The answer is having an adequate tow vehicle. Recently the two largest manufacturers of pickup trucks have greatly lowered their requirements for front axle weight restoration, making the Andersen suitable for a lot of tow vehicles, but not nearly all. When I see people concerned about the weight of an average passenger being located fore or aft in their tow vehicle, I have to wonder if they really have the right tow vehicle.

The Andersen hitch is the real deal when it comes to sway mitigation, not the ultimate when it comes to shifting weight forward. It sure is easy to use and does a great job for me. The quietness has to be experienced to be appreciated.
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Doug K. reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live character Debbie Downer. No matter what anyone said, she always had a downer comment.

Give it up Doug.
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