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Old 05-22-2013, 03:38 AM   #29
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Pro Series Weight Distribution System w/ Friction Sway Control - Round - 10,000 lbs GTW, 750 lbs TW Pro Series Weight Distribution PS49902

Does this system not have what I need, for 250 bucks?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:55 AM   #30
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And yes I've read the 100+ page discussion, you guys get rediculous. Safety is my main concern, ease of use and performance must also be considered. That being said I refuse to invest more in my hitch setup than the cost of my entire Airstream!
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:42 AM   #31
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Why is this a debate?

Pro pride - $2,400
Hensley - $3,200 +/-
Reese Dual Cam - $600 +/-
Equalizer - $500 +/-
Anderson - $400 + $200 (replace coupler) = $600
Because we still have free choice.....I think.

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And yes I've read the 100+ page discussion, you guys get rediculous. Safety is my main concern, ease of use and performance must also be considered. That being said I refuse to invest more in my hitch setup than the cost of my entire Airstream!
If safety is in fact your main concern then, never mind.....I love being ridiculous.

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Old 05-22-2013, 07:48 AM   #32
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And yes I've read the 100+ page discussion, you guys get rediculous. Safety is my main concern, ease of use and performance must also be considered. That being said I refuse to invest more in my hitch setup than the cost of my entire Airstream!
If safety truly were your MAIN concern, you would buy the ProPride, but seems to me that cost is really your main concern.

And in that case, any weight distribution system will work. Yes, the Pro Series from E-trailer will work. Let us know how well it stops sway for you after you've used it.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:36 AM   #33
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I will comment on my use and observations of the Andersen Hitch.

From the first day of installation, both the pin and the triangular plate would not remove from the ball assembly without tools and leverage. In fact, the plate would not come off without putting it into a vice and working it loose.

I called Andersen several times regarding this issue and they first started with the pin. They sent a new pin sighting that it was probably the powder coat finish that was hanging it up. New pin arrived and still would not go in or out of the hole without a mallet. Called them back and they sent out a new triangular plate. I got the feeling while talking to them on the phone they have had this issue before as he didn't hesitate in making it right.

Received the new plate and it slides on and off the ball assembly as it is suppose to. So they have corrected that issue.

In terms of use and performance, my coupler will only withstand tightening the bushings until about four threads are present. I have the original Marvel coupler on a 67' Globetrotter. Once I go further with tension, the coupler "fin" raises to a level that I'm not comfortable with.

Now I am not a mechanic or an engineer of any type. Just an average user. I have not weighed my tongue weight or gone to the scales to see the change in attitude. I feel to be totally comfortable with this hitch, I will need to change the coupler. This isn't a bad thing and should probably be done anyway given its age.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:42 AM   #34
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While it is sold as a Sway Control System the friction bar is questionable as to it's effectiveness and a real nuisance to use.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:49 AM   #35
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When I started this thread I hoped that it would be for Andersen users to report their findings. I must be a bumble bee, I did not know that the Andersen hitch, Quick-bite coupler, and the EZ connector pig tail were not suppose to work. After this last weekend all three worked very well in combination.

Now I am sorry that I started this thread because it seems that the unhappy former Andersen are here trying to tell everybody that the Andersen hitch is a piece of junk and should not be used, if that is your true opinion than you are entitled to it.

What I did not say in my opening comments was that on the first day of our outing the fuel pump quit on our 2001 F-150 with only 78,000 miles. Does this mean that Fords are no good? Heavens NO! A fellow Airstreamer had a Chevy Suburban plow a hole out the side of the engine block. Another friend lost an engine in a 6 year old Dodge. All three happened to highly tested trucks from three American truck makers.

For all you people who do not like the Andersen, here is why I bought the Andersen. The problem with the Hensley, Pro Pride, Reese and the other spring bar hitches is mine and my wife's backs. All the a for mentioned hitches simple weight to much. They all do a good job, but, in my opinion, so does the Andersen hitch and it weights less than my old Reese hitch head and stinger.

The Airstream experience is all about adventure and friendship. Can we keep it that way and forget about whose rig is better and whose dog is bigger. Lets be happy to see each other out there as we travel through our great countries.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:09 AM   #36
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Good choice, because it can do a basic function the Andersen has not been shown to do, distribute weight needed for safe handling of the tow vehicle.

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Old 05-22-2013, 10:12 AM   #37
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Doug, once again I ask you to offer documentation to support your statement. Many users here and on other forums have proved that the Andersen system does properly distribute weight needed for safe handling of the tow vehicle. It seems to me that all your concerns are based on wouda, shouda, coulda and no facts.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:50 AM   #38
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When I started this thread I hoped that it would be for Andersen users to report their findings. I must be a bumble bee, I did not know that the Andersen hitch, Quick-bite coupler, and the EZ connector pig tail were not suppose to work. After this last weekend all three worked very well in combination.

Now I am sorry that I started this thread because it seems that the unhappy former Andersen are here trying to tell everybody that the Andersen hitch is a piece of junk and should not be used, if that is your true opinion than you are entitled to it.

What I did not say in my opening comments was that on the first day of our outing the fuel pump quit on our 2001 F-150 with only 78,000 miles. Does this mean that Fords are no good? Heavens NO! A fellow Airstreamer had a Chevy Suburban plow a hole out the side of the engine block. Another friend lost an engine in a 6 year old Dodge. All three happened to highly tested trucks from three American truck makers.

For all you people who do not like the Andersen, here is why I bought the Andersen. The problem with the Hensley, Pro Pride, Reese and the other spring bar hitches is mine and my wife's backs. All the a for mentioned hitches simple weight to much. They all do a good job, but, in my opinion, so does the Andersen hitch and it weights less than my old Reese hitch head and stinger.

The Airstream experience is all about adventure and friendship. Can we keep it that way and forget about whose rig is better and whose dog is bigger. Lets be happy to see each other out there as we travel through our great countries.
It seems to me that Doug K has done what the thread title has asked; reported his use of the Andersen system. The fact that it is not a favorable report appears to irritate some people, which is a bit disappointing because he's only saying it as he's found it to be; what's to be upset about?

Not everyone is convinced of the effectiveness of the Andersen so let's embrace the positive and the negative views.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:56 AM   #39
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Michael, somewhere in the thousand-some posts in the first user's thread (this one is a useless repeat) it was shown mathematically there is not enough leverage in the system to effect sufficient weight distribution with anything but lightweight trailers.

As I recall, your own scale tickets show insufficient weight transfer.

This has been answered with claims that it transfers enough because it handles good. I made that claim as well as others. It has progressed to some truck manufacturers have drastically lowered weight distribution requirements. That is a dubious claim, and the documentation of it indicates a misreading of the manufacturer's recommendation, as I recall.

Many of us questioning the Andersen system have been shouted down for our efforts by a few people on the thread, and now this one. Your persistance has worn me down for sure, but has not altered my contention the hitch, although innovative and a good anti-sway device, has design flaws in its present form.

I have used it and was not satisfied with the safety of its coupler forces, questionable weight distribution, and inflexibility. For those that are, that's fine. But I cannot recommend it.

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Old 05-22-2013, 11:10 AM   #40
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Not everyone is convinced of the effectiveness of the Andersen so let's embrace the positive and the negative views.
A true statement but somewhat misleading. Yes there have been comments from 2 or 3 individuals regarding the weight distributing capacity of the Andersen. The problem is there are far more statements from user that have found this this not to be the case. Doug has asked for scale tickets to support our finding and several of us have posted them for all range of trailer sizes. That and the fact that the current thinking from automobile manufactures long longer support the weight distributing requirements of the 60s when we were all towing with lightly sprung cars.

He is free to continue to post his thoughts and I assume those of us that are satisfied are free to continue to post positive results and comment on current engineering. Almost all new technology is met with negative comment from those unable to grasp the science or unwilling to shed their long held positions. There are those that have not yet accepted the internet, cell phones, or our nations energy independence based on natural gas. Luckily we have been able to over look the naysayers on the first 2 and hopefully we will get past them on the third soon.
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Doug, Not sure who you are talking about but I have never taken my trailer/TV to a scale. I see no reason to do so. I have set up my Andersen per the makers instructions on three different TVs. All three have transferred the desired weight to the front of the vehicle as evidenced by the height of the fender above the front wheels. I really don’t see any credence in paper napkin fuzzy math. The proof is in the actual performance of the system.
Just as you feel that it is correct for you to slam the Andersen WD system each and every chance you get I feel that I am justified in making my pleasure known with the system and the customer service of the Andersen company known.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:22 AM   #42
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Michael, my apology it was another user, a 34' trailer I think who posted scale weights. It may well distribute enough weight on an earlier lightweight trailer such as yours.

I'm not slamming the Andersen system, just reporting what I have experienced, and the reasons I no longer use it. It has as much value as anything on the internet (not much).

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