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Old 06-09-2013, 06:03 AM   #155
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A very good point...

I retired from a GM store in 2010, at that time the "round bar" was still being used, our 2006 Burb had one, first towing mod I did.





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That lame piece of junk that was used for so many years. It really makes one wonder how much a company really understands about the whole towing deal.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:23 AM   #156
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That lame piece of junk that was used for so many years. It really makes one wonder how much a company really understands about the whole towing deal.
At some point they must have got the word, as the hitch on my 2009 and 2013 Silverado's are much more substantial.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:36 AM   #157
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People KEEP ON showing the picture of the GM receiver hitch, and they KEEP ON misleading people with those pictures because what they don't show is the other cross member of the frame that the hitch attaches to.

I towed with a stock GM receiver for years without any issues whatsoever.

However, they did have some bad corrosion problems up North where they use chemicals on the roads for ice that we don't have down here.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:00 AM   #158
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Roger, I would not put the gloves away. I would suspect that if some of these folks got together in the same campground they might come in handy.
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Thanks Chief. Good Idea. Got any ideas for a portable ring ???? Hmmmm maybe even some ticket sales. Hold that thought.
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:41 PM   #160
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And how about a special door prize for the winner. Maybe someone that is afraid of their Andersen will donate it to either the winner or loser depending on the outcome.
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Just getting around to telling about last weeks travels. Went to our combined unit rally in B.G. Ohio. Only about a 60 mile round trip and the Andersen preformed well. At the rally about 10 people wanted to know about the Andersen, the Quick bite, and the EZ connector wire harness. Everyone liked and understood the way the all worked. Of the ten most were thinking using one, two, or all three of them. I did tell them that in my opinion the Andersen works best with full sized pickups and vans, and not so well with SUV's and sedans.
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For $200 more you can get the Anderson and have a product made in USA with sway control.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:20 AM   #163
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The less expensive systems usually cut corners. We bought 10 Curt weight distributing hitches at work. They are just cheesy. The method of holding the torsion bars in is just terrible. All 10 are broken after not even 6 months. You always get what you pay for.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #164
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The less expensive systems usually cut corners. We bought 10 Curt weight distributing hitches at work. They are just cheesy. The method of holding the torsion bars in is just terrible. All 10 are broken after not even 6 months. You always get what you pay for.
From your earlier post can i assume your comment about less expensive systems refers to the EQ hitch getting what you pay for and not the Andersen?
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Speaking in general that principal applies. My point is- don't get the least expensive hitch and don't go strictly on written specifications. Real life and specs on paper are 2 different things. The specific brands I mentioned are the ones I have personal experience with. The Andersen hitch is a great product for sure, but I have never used one. I think the Hensley Arrow may also be a good one, but I have never had one, and I have only seen them in person twice. Do I think the Equal-I-Zer is a good hitch? Yes. Do I think there may be better hitches out there? Yes.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:24 PM   #166
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Just returned from a 23 day 4000 mile trip with our '74 Argosy 26'. From Henry, NE to Vancouver, BC and back.
My TV is an '08 Tundra
I use the Andersen Hitch and a Marvel coupler rated at 20,000#
The TV has "P" rated tires With 40 PSI in the rear tires
The trailer has "ST" rated tires with 55 PSI in all 4 tires
The trailer weighs in at 5,500# loaded for travel
I also use air bags on the rear axle with 28# in each bag.
Here is a pic of the setup.

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_4049.jpg

There was one issue with the Andersen Hitch. And it only happened one time. The threads on the tensioning bolt hung up on the washer welded to the square tubing. Note in the following two photos. The chains are slack and the bushings are compressed.
http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_3244.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_3243.jpg

The brackets did not move throughout the entire trip.

When setting up the hitch I follow Andersen's instructions, but don't count the threads. I measure the compression of the bushings. Tightening the nut until I measure 3" outside to outside on the washers at each end of the bushing.

I do feel the air bags on the rear axle of the TV are a big plus and help with the Andersen Hitch. Requiring less tension on the bushings to obtain the "steering geometry". As you can see in the first pic. The truck and trailer are riding in the correct plane.

We drove in 50 MPH headwinds thru driving rain for 3 days heading northwest thru Montana. Driving at 60 MPH. Experienced no porpoising or sway problems the whole trip. The water was deep enough on the hiway that it knocked one of the hub caps off.

There were no problems with the Marvel Coupler. Even though the latch handle raises up when hitched. The pawl is securely nestled with the ball.
I meant to take a pic of the ball to show the wear marks. But haven't done it yet. But looking at the top of the ball, with the receiver being at 12 o'clock. There are 3 points of contact on the ball. On at 10 O'clock, one at 2 O'clock and one at 6 O'clock. Each being about an inch long and about 1/2" below the top of the ball. The marks are what I would consider normal, with no signs of gouging.

Here is a close up of the hitch when set up.

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_4052.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_4050.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_4051.jpg

And last. Do you think this guy has a steering geometry problem?

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_4048.jpg
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Using air bags to lift the back of the truck is not weight distribution, it's only lifting the back of the truck. Weight distribution is needed to restore not only the geometry of the front axle, but to restore handling and braking characteristics of the truck as well as a balanced payload.

My experience with the Andersen bushing compression compared to yours indicates you have little tension on them; that would of course keep the brackets from moving. And indicates little weight distribution.

Andersen has warned not to use the hitch with this coupler, it can wear he latch and uncouple from the trailer. The looped chain may prevent this, but how do you know.

Indeed you don't always follow the rules, but I would hope this is not taken by others as a safe towing setup.

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Old 07-01-2013, 11:04 PM   #168
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Andersen talks about the Atwood coupler not the Marvel coupler. They are totally different animals.
I won't get into the weight distribution discussion.
This combination works for me. The handling is solid.
I would not recommend the Andersen on a trailer larger than mine. And would be skeptical as to how effective it is without the airbag system. Since the compression of the bushings have their limits.
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