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Old 05-23-2010, 12:32 PM   #57
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LarryC, thanks for the report. We'd all like to be on that trip humming the Johnny Horton song "North to Alaska".

About the truck suspension, I drive a 1996 F250 with rear springs that have been toting a load for 14 years now. To help my ole truck, I added a set of Firestone RideRite air bags on the rear several years ago. That brought her up in the rear just like when she was young, despite the heavy "camping-ready" load I keep in the bed of the truck. I've found the combination of Firestone air bags on my truck and on my AirSafe hitch to be a very good match, with a lot of ride adjustment and cushioning effects at play.

Keep those reports coming!
Hey ya'll, we're traveling solo, if you want to hookup with us, you're welcome.
As for the "camping ready" load you mention, the weight of mine is considerable also....here's a list"


115 gallons in the "aux" tank, is about 675#, including the weight of the tank.


5' "Bedslide" with cabinet that I built, extra spare trailer tire, tools, Weber barbeque, more tools, satellite dish, and cable, more tools, extras for extras, and a whole bunch of other "stuff", this adds about another 650#.

I'm being conservative when I say there is 1,300# in the bed of the Dodge 2500/Cummins.

So as you can see, I don't exactly have a "lightweight" either. I've used this setup for the past 4 years, and around 50,000 miles of pulling this Airstream, and it's worked like a charm...

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Old 05-23-2010, 03:39 PM   #58
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Hey ya'll, we're traveling solo, if you want to hookup with us, you're welcome.
As for the "camping ready" load you mention, the weight of mine is considerable also....here's a list"


115 gallons in the "aux" tank, is about 675#, including the weight of the tank.


5' "Bedslide" with cabinet that I built, extra spare trailer tire, tools, Weber barbeque, more tools, satellite dish, and cable, more tools, extras for extras, and a whole bunch of other "stuff", this adds about another 650#.

I'm being conservative when I say there is 1,300# in the bed of the Dodge 2500/Cummins.

So as you can see, I don't exactly have a "lightweight" either. I've used this setup for the past 4 years, and around 50,000 miles of pulling this Airstream, and it's worked like a charm...

Have a good day.
Sorry 'bout this, but I screwed up on the weight calculations for my "camping ready" stuff in the bed of by truck. Corrections are below:

115 gallons of diesel, plus weight of the tank, 780 pounds.

Other "stuff" (tools, barbeque, etc, etc,etc) 650 pounds.

The bed load is around 1,430 pounds...

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Old 05-24-2010, 05:37 AM   #59
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the w/d is not necessary for a 3/4 ton truck and only 900# of hitch weight.


Except that Dodge states a WDH is necessary when tongue weight exceeds 350-lbs using a Class III or IV hitch on these trucks. Anti-sway equipment recommended.

TW is not static except when parked.

Where's the scale numbers? Since 1400# of bed load and a 900# TW probably take the rear axle load past the Dodge rated maximum. Guesstimates are acceptable? Since when?

Slapping a bandaid on poor hitch rigging and overweight condition.


Dodge Towing Guide: 2004 3/4T

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) = 9000 lbs
Payload = 2274 lbs
GAWR Front/Rear = 4750 lbs/6000 lbs
Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) = 20000 lbs



Thus far this thread isn't about the product in the title.


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And diesel weighs 7.29 lbs/gl. 115 gls = 838-lbs. Plus the tank.
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....plus, in may case, even though I have a 3/4 ton, my sway control is dependent on the use of weight bars (dual-cam).
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:41 AM   #62
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And diesel weighs 7.29 lbs/gl. 115 gls = 838-lbs. Plus the tank.
OK, I'll concede the weight of diesel fuel and agree with 7 to 7.3# per gallon. This adds 109 pounds to my calculations above. However you figure it, my total rig weighs 17,000 pounds, that is 8,000 for the truck and 9,000 for the 30' Excella. I have the weigh bill that verifies these weights.
I'm not nit-picking, I know what works for me, and that's been proven over time.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it....have a good day.....oh yeah, I use the Reese Dual Cam (old style), personally, I feel that is an excellent setup.
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Guess what showed up today... 2air was right, the airsafe, bracket and hitch get a bit heavy but Im looking forward to setting it up correctly.

This is a class 6 setup due to the extreme tongue weight with the Classic S/O model.
I have just taken a couple measurements for the basic setup and noticed that the original ball height is 19" . I used the upper two holes for the bracket and mounted the hitch. I havent hitched to the trailer yet but will take a few shots of that setup once I do. It seems that when the links are pitched up slightly the unit is in the center of its travel vs. being level. I may call the company about this question. When the bars are level it seems like I only have about 3/4 of an inch travel before hiting the stop. The video shows radical up an down movement and I wouldnt want it to bottom out on the stop. Also.. the four bolts that hold the bracket to the unit show on the website 55-100 lbs of torque. The instructions in the box show 75 lbs of torque max and I noticed at about 70lbs the lock washers are begining to distort out of shape and lose their ability to function. They seem to be the weak link with this setup. Here are a few shots. You will notice the bottom bolt on the hitch is missing as the threads were pulled a bit when I removed it. I will replace that bolt and nut tomorrow. Overall I love the concept and cant wait to try it out.
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Nice pics, I see your heavy duty one came with the side shocks too! Pretty cool.
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i also have a dodge 31' excella with a hensley hitch.. love it...
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Hey Larry,

I havent taken it out on the road yet.. maybe this weekend. I basically setup the hitch to the same existing settings I had before the airsafe. The truck is just backed up to the trailer and is not level as the front end is up on a small burm. I have the bag set to 55 psi and it seems that I have equal travel on the slide mechanism. I have to extend my brake away cable.. i guess replace it. Thankfully my electrical cable is long enough. Here are a few pics of the hook up.

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And just incase anyone's interested... The distance from the end of the reciever to the center of the ball on my setup is 17 1/2".

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Hey Larry,

I havent taken it out on the road yet.. maybe this weekend. I basically setup the hitch to the same existing settings I had before the airsafe. The truck is just backed up to the trailer and is not level as the front end is up on a small burm. I have the bag set to 55 psi and it seems that I have equal travel on the slide mechanism. I have to extend my brake away cable.. i guess replace it. Thankfully my electrical cable is long enough. Here are a few pics of the hook up.

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Look's like your links have about the same upward pitch that mine have. Let me know what you think after you tow it over a rough road, or an uneven interstate....
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LarryC, I'm battling two cracked (now pulled) teeth and scheduling to attach two brand new ones this summer. So, instead of Alaska, I'll be dealing with the tooth fairy. I'd sure rather be spending money on diesel and enjoying the coolness of Alaska.

Regarding diesel, I also have an auxiliary fuel tank in my F250, holding 91 gallons. It adds about 765 pounds to my load, but that's only a snapshot when full. When on the road, I burn about 27 pounds of fuel per hour, so it diminishes pretty quickly. But it sure is nice to refuel every few days instead of every few hours, especially when you can pick the cheaper fuel places to refill.

Another thing to consider: my auxiliary fuel tank is located adjacent to the cab of the truck. Based on the relevant measurements, about 20% of the fuel load is actually borne by the front axle. So, even though I carry a heavy load in the rear including my tongue weight, it stays within Ford specs.

Vinnie, that Class VI is a beautiful setup. I know you'll enjoy it, and so will your Classic slide-out, because of the air-cushioned ride provided by that hitch.

PS, Larry: I've heard that fuel prices are pretty steep in Canada. You might do good to top off in the US before crossing.
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Thanks Airstreamer67,

I probably would have stayed on the fence if Larry didnt post his idea. Will take it out this weekend and see what is does... I know when I bounce up and down on the hitch I can barely get any movement out of it but that will change once we get out on the road Im sure..

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