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Old 12-03-2007, 12:13 PM   #57
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Sean,

Are you going to be at the Tampa RV Show this January?

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Old 12-03-2007, 01:08 PM   #58
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Sean,

Are you going to be at the Tampa RV Show this January?

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No, I won't, Mark. That show requires registration a year in advance to get booth space. They actually book the next year while the current year show is taking place.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:15 PM   #59
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It's like this: if the airplane were invented today, the DOT would call it an "All Terrain Vehicle."
Actually we'd call in a Non Terrain vehicle.

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Old 12-03-2007, 03:31 PM   #60
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the aDjUsTaBLe stinger...

hi sean

any better shots of this?

zooming on the pix above is of limited use.

it seems that MASSIVE forces are transmitted and handles in the stinger/drop bar, and in everywhichwaydirection.

a quick look at the haha user guide and talks with haha users confirm, pin box wear and up grades and wear on the haha stinger hole too....

i do wish the haha had 1 inch increments for drop sizing BUT....

i'm not sure i want one with adjustable drop bar bits, just yet.

thoughts? more photos?

viewers are standing by!

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Old 12-03-2007, 04:41 PM   #61
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It's good to see another company taking trailer sway seriously. For 14 years, Hensley has been the only company blowing that horn. Our biggest complaint has always been the lack of "real" competition. If you're the only one making a product, people wonder if it's really a necessary item.

Best of luck to Sean. Hensley will continue to fight the good fight and develop (with your input) products to make our chosen lifestyle safer and more enjoyable.
Ron, as a new HAHA owner of less than 5 months who has rust problems specifically on the right and left adjustment tubes as well as the adjustment bolt at the top of the tube, what is HA doing to fix this problem or make it right for existing customers? It appears as if the competition has at least thought about addressing this by using an improved (POR-15 or similar) coating. Quite honestly, for a $3,000 piece of equipment to rust as quickly as this has doesn't appear to bode well for HA's overall longevity.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:44 PM   #62
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the aDjUsTaBLe stinger...
any better shots of this?
Attached below is all I have at this point.


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it seems that MASSIVE forces are transmitted and handles in the stinger/drop bar, and in everywhichwaydirection.
Yes, there are. No more than any other adustable hitch bar though. We've loaded it to over 3,000 pounds of tongue weight and it hasn't been a problem. It is "beefer" than the conventional adjustable hitch bar.

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a quick look at the haha user guide and talks with haha users confirm, pin box wear and up grades and wear on the haha stinger hole too....
I'm not sure what I can do about the pin hole in the receiver. We have, however, reinforced the hitch box on the main head and used a different method for putting it together than the haha uses. There WILL NOT be any stretched hitch boxes on the new design. That is something that has always concerned Jim Hensley so he addressed it in this design.

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i do wish the haha had 1 inch increments for drop sizing BUT....
I understand but it has to stop somewhere...
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:23 PM   #63
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Ron, as a new HAHA owner of less than 5 months who has rust problems specifically on the right and left adjustment tubes as well as the adjustment bolt at the top of the tube, what is HA doing to fix this problem or make it right for existing customers? It appears as if the competition has at least thought about addressing this by using an improved (POR-15 or similar) coating. Quite honestly, for a $3,000 piece of equipment to rust as quickly as this has doesn't appear to bode well for HA's overall longevity.
Paint is one area I've been addressing lately. When the company first started, the mentality was to make it safe, first, then worry about cosmetics. Now that we've established ourselves as the safest hitch on the market, we can look at things like paint. I should have more news on this in the next few months.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:37 PM   #64
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How nice to see both Hensley Ron and Sean on one thread. Congratulations to both of you! Competition is good, improvement is even better. Not that I think our Hensley itself needs any improvement, but Sean's pictures of his adjustable stinger show some very good thinking. I am intrigued by the elongated holes which suggest that not just the drop, but the tilt of the stinger is adjustable. That would be just to ticket to take care of my down-pointing Hensley (see my recent post in 2air's Ultimate HaHa Guide). So Ron, will Hensley come up with something like this or, alternately, Sean, will your new adjustable stinger fit my Hensley?
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:47 PM   #65
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I am intrigued by the elongated holes which suggest that not just the drop, but the tilt of the stinger is adjustable. That would be just to ticket to take care of my down-pointing Hensley (see my recent post in 2air's Ultimate HaHa Guide). So Ron, will Hensley come up with something like this or, alternately, Sean, will your new adjustable stinger fit my Hensley?
That is exaclty what the elongated hole is for. It will make for better weight distribution on all the receivers out there that tilt up.

Jim Henlsey has the patent on the adjustable bar with a convergent linkage hitch so I don't think Hensley Mfg, will be making one. Unless they decide to just copy it and let him fight it out with them.

The bar for the new design will not fit the old design because we have changed the angle of the wedges to take care of the hitch bar sticking in the hitch head. Also note that the bar is shorter in length by the wedges being closer to the tow vehicle and OCL tabs. This moves the pivot point projection two inches further forward for sway control.

I will, when I get a little more time, manufacture an adjustable bar that works with the Arrow.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:28 PM   #66
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Paint is one area I've been addressing lately. When the company first started, the mentality was to make it safe, first, then worry about cosmetics. Now that we've established ourselves as the safest hitch on the market, we can look at things like paint. I should have more news on this in the next few months.
Hi Ron
So I should wait a couple of months before I buy my new HAHA? I was planning on buying it this month to get the December discount. Airstream 22 has only had his Arrow for 5 months and he has rust?
What should I do?
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:13 PM   #67
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Hi Ron
So I should wait a couple of months before I buy my new HAHA? I was planning on buying it this month to get the December discount. Airstream 22 has only had his Arrow for 5 months and he has rust?
What should I do?
Thanks
Dennis
Well, I am not Ron, but can tell you that the rust on our Hensley has been essentially cosmetic and it has been hanging out in our Bay Area weather for almost 6 years. PM me if you would like to check in person what I mean since we are not very far away from you.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:01 PM   #68
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I really like the idea of your adjustable hitch bar and yes you need to make one for the HA - After seeing your hitch I am sorry I just purchased a used HA last month.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:53 PM   #69
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After seeing your hitch I am sorry I just purchased a used HA last month.
why r us sorry?

the haha you purchased was only 5-600 bucks right?

that really old vintage job on ebay? wasn't that like a 10 year old unit?

perhaps i'm confused buyers, and it's none of my business, but...

this new product is 2,000+$ more than you spent,

and a virtually new haha, factory warranted, could have been purchased in in USE by now for less...

wasn't it the 'deal' that swayed your purchase?

it might be useful if we save singing the praise, until at least AFTER the product is available.

just a thought, in hyperbola land.

cheers

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and THANKS for the better pics sean, will you also have a RIGID/welded/unadjustable stinger option available?
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:19 PM   #70
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ONE MORE POST MAKES 4,000 2Air'!
congrats on that
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