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01-23-2011, 04:35 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1967 17' Caravel
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Landenberg
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jan 2010
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67 Caravel Help: to sway or not to sway
Hi everyone. I'm getting ready for my shake down cruise with my Caravel and a family member who has experience with single axle trailers highly recommended something for sway control. I am pulling the Caravel with a 99 F150 4x4 and I have a couple of questions.
1. Do I need a load leveling hitch or will the sway bar attachment be enough?
2. Are the sway bars that I see from Reese and others that fit on the side of the trailer and attach to the hitch via another small ball sufficient for my setup?
Do you have experience with this size of trailer? If so, I'd appreciate your help.
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01-23-2011, 05:04 AM
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New Member
1968 17' Caravel
Canon City
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3
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Sway
I have the 68 Caravele 17' and have towed it several thousand miles with a Dodge Dakota 4X4 without any type of sway or load leveler. You just want to be sure that it and the truck are level. You will have to check the height or the hitch and trailer and have them the same
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01-23-2011, 06:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vonzellen
1. Do I need a load leveling hitch or will the sway bar attachment be enough?
2. Are the sway bars that I see from Reese and others that fit on the side of the trailer and attach to the hitch via another small ball sufficient for my setup?
Do you have experience with this size of trailer? If so, I'd appreciate your help.
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With that setup, you don't have to have WD, though many recommend it. If you do get it, get the lightest rated one you can, it'll be more than enough.
The anti-sway bars from Reese are the dual cam and strait-line, and include both WD and anti sway. Again, get the lightest ones you can (800#).
You really should have some kind of sway control, even if it's the old-school single friction bar. They are much less than $100 for most of them, and are cheap insurance. You probably will never need it, but there's always that "one in a thousand" chance... If it does by some chance start to sway while you're going down the road, you can't hit a "pause game" button, and put one on.
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01-23-2011, 06:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
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I use a single bar WD hitch with a 17' Casita that I also have, it works well, totally adequate for the weight you are talking about, and it's inexpensive: Single Bar Weight Distribution Kit for A-Frame Draw-Tite Weight Distribution 3205
Along with the WD hitch, I use a friction sway bar: Reese Friction Sway Control for Weight Distribution Systems Reese Weight Distribution RP26660
You can probably beat that price on the sway bar on EBAY.
I use this setup towing my 17 footer with a 3/4 ton truck, because it's better, and safer.
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01-23-2011, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveH
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That setup should be more than adequate for the Caravel. Here's a link to the friction anti-sway bar I was referring to, it's pretty much a knock-off of the Reese: Husky Sway Control Bars on Sale
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01-23-2011, 09:31 AM
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RGates
1968 20' Globetrotter
Thousand Oaks
, California
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Look at the Eaz-Lift hitch!
I have a 1968 Globetrotter and the Eaz-Lift hitch was a great choice for me. I only know that out here in California we deal with alot of wind gusts. Changing lanes with a sway bar attachment makes driving alot safer under these conditions. Take a look at the site, has a good video. Hope it helps you. Enjoy! Trailer hitch - EAZ-LIFT Weight Distribution Hitches on Sale
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01-23-2011, 09:57 AM
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1959 26' Overlander
Putnam
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I found mine ran better with a WD and friction sway bar. Tried all the combinations. If you are going to run I80 and play with the trucks I'ld put the sway on. Takes the bumps better with the WD. Like on rails....
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01-23-2011, 11:09 AM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,253
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We tow our Caravel with our 95 E150 Van with no WD and a friction sway control. We have an EZ-Lift type setup, but I think our bars are too heavy and gave the trailer a stiff ride, we were losing rivets out of the front panel above the tongue. Because the tongue weight is so light, the van doesn't need the WD, but I still use the friction sway control, although I have never felt any need for it. The trailer has never done anything to make me think it is getting out of control. Early on we forgot the sway control and drove on a very windy highway with many semis passing us and the trailer towed perfectly. I still use it just for peace of mind.
However, this is my personal experience with a big, long wheelbase tow vehicle. If I switched to another tow vehicle, I would have to start all over again to figure out what works.
Regarding things like the reese dual-cam hitch, I am not convinced that the tongue weight on the Caravel is great enough to actually activate the sway control features of the hitch, because they are made for much heavier tongue weights (the smallest dual-cam hitch is 600lb bars) and the tongue weight on the Caravel is under 300 lbs.
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01-23-2011, 11:23 AM
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Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vonzellen
Hi everyone. I'm getting ready for my shake down cruise with my Caravel and a family member who has experience with single axle trailers highly recommended something for sway control. I am pulling the Caravel with a 99 F150 4x4 and I have a couple of questions.
1. Do I need a load leveling hitch or will the sway bar attachment be enough?
2. Are the sway bars that I see from Reese and others that fit on the side of the trailer and attach to the hitch via another small ball sufficient for my setup?
Do you have experience with this size of trailer? If so, I'd appreciate your help.
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It all depends on the risks you want to take when towing.
No equalizer hitch is a negative.
No sway control is a negative.
The lack of both of them, is a risk your family might not want to take.
A proper load equalizing hitch, properly installed with a sway control, offers the maximum in towing security.
You must decide how much of that additional security you wish to kick to the curb.
Yes, I know, some people drive on snow with bald tires, BUT....................
Andy
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01-23-2011, 12:10 PM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vonzellen
Hi everyone. I'm getting ready for my shake down cruise with my Caravel and a family member who has experience with single axle trailers highly recommended something for sway control. I am pulling the Caravel with a 99 F150 4x4 and I have a couple of questions.
1. Do I need a load leveling hitch or will the sway bar attachment be enough?
2. Are the sway bars that I see from Reese and others that fit on the side of the trailer and attach to the hitch via another small ball sufficient for my setup?
Do you have experience with this size of trailer? If so, I'd appreciate your help.
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I personally would run WD and a sway bar in your situation although I know some people would say it isn't necessary. I have my 30' trailer and have other smaller, utility type trailers, that I also tow.
If you have a longer wheelbase truck it probably doesn't matter as much. You don't say whether you have a short or long bed, standard or crew cab.
The hitches from Reese and others that you describe, have one or two weight distribution bars, and a friction sway control that attaches to a small ball on the side, would be ideal for a smaller trailer like yours.
The extra stability becomes important when conditions are unexpectedly poor due to wind, rain, ice, construction, etc.
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01-23-2011, 12:42 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1967 17' Caravel
1967 22' Safari
Dimondale
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 32
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I have the same exact trailer and tow with an F-150. In six years I have never had it sway once! I don't have a load level hitch or anti-sway.
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01-23-2011, 03:51 PM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,253
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One other thing I forgot to mention about our E150 is that it has air bags in the back. Apparently the original owners used it as a shop truck for their parts business, and needed to carry heavy stuff in the back. So it has a very stiff rear suspension. Makes it a pain to ride in (as anyone unfortunate enough to have ridden in the back will confirm) but when I drop the tongue on the ball the back end barely drops at all.
There are so many differences between tow vehicles, trailers, how the trailer is loaded (I was told to always tow with a full fresh water tank to put a little more weight on the tongue) that I think you really just need to try it out. But I would certainly start out with something like sway control and see how it handles. I would rather take off stuff I don't need than wish I had it.
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01-23-2011, 05:57 PM
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Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PauseReflect
I have the same exact trailer and tow with an F-150. In six years I have never had it sway once! I don't have a load level hitch or anti-sway.
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Try riding in the very back of the Airstream, at 60 MPH, for just one minute.
Most people say "WOW". I would never have thought..............
Andy
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01-23-2011, 06:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 25' Tradewind
Waskesiu Lake
, Saskatchewan
Join Date: Dec 2008
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I've never had a problem... yet. It's the yet part that really messes up your holiday (or your life). I choose to run with both weight distribution & sway control because it's cheap to do so and nobody has been able to convince me that I am just as safe without it. With a light trailer like your Caravel I might just go with the sway control if the weight isn't an issue.
This person probably believes in sway control now too:
Happy & safe travels regardless of the choice you make.
Kevin
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01-26-2011, 05:03 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1967 17' Caravel
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Landenberg
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 68
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Thanks and one more question.
I appreciate everyone's input. I checked my local trailer store here and found two brands of friction sway control bars. One was $49.00 and one was $69.00. I opened the boxes and both were identical. I think I will use this type of friction bar for sway control. Also:
A friend has a WD hitch he's selling. It's rated at 1200# tongue weight. This is certainly overkill for my Caravel, but would it matter. He wants $150 for it and it might be nice to have should I get a larger trailer someday. What do you think? Any negatives of using a 1200# WD system when I need much less?
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01-26-2011, 05:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vonzellen
I appreciate everyone's input. I checked my local trailer store here and found two brands of friction sway control bars. One was $49.00 and one was $69.00. I opened the boxes and both were identical. I think I will use this type of friction bar for sway control. Also:
A friend has a WD hitch he's selling. It's rated at 1200# tongue weight. This is certainly overkill for my Caravel, but would it matter. He wants $150 for it and it might be nice to have should I get a larger trailer someday. What do you think? Any negatives of using a 1200# WD system when I need much less?
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Yes it would matter if the bars are that weight rating. All of the major hitch heads are rated for simular weight, but you DO NOT want to put 1200 pound bars on your Caravel. They are too strong, and will in time damage the trailer.
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