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Old 05-08-2010, 12:03 AM   #1
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64 hitch question

I have the part of the hitch that is attached to the trailer (reese straight line dual cam?) and I found the receiver and wt. dist bars for sale (used) at a local dealer. BUT is that the right receiver for my 64 and how can I tell what wt rating the bars are? Help
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I have the part of the hitch that is attached to the trailer (reese straight line dual cam?) and I found the receiver and wt. dist bars for sale (used) at a local dealer. BUT is that the right receiver for my 64 and how can I tell what wt rating the bars are? Help
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To determine the weight rating of the bars, measure the top side of the bar, as it enters the trunnion.

The weight ratings are as follows.

1" = 450 pounds

1 1/8 " = 650 pounds

1 1/4 " = 900 pounds.

When you add the dual cam, you add an additional 100 pounds to the bar ratings.

Your photo shows some damage to the horseshoe brackets that are on the end of the dual cams.

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The drawbar (part with trailer ball) will work with the hardware currently installed on your Airstream, but the weight distribution bars will not.

Your Airstream appears to have dual-cams, and the bars have no saddles to accomodate the cams. Take a look at the images in this link to see what the bar ends should look like. Additionally, the link will show you how to determine the bars' weight ratings.

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Thanks Andy; is the horseshoe the "loop" that the chain is connected to? should the whole dual cam be replaced and if so are they still available? Or ok as is ?
Tom, great link thanks. I checked today and they have the saddles to fit the bars, so I may go that route, but I've got to measure the bars first.
Also whats the general consensus on correct wt. rating for a 64tw with a 2005 tundra?
Feel like I'm in an old western all this discussion of saddles, horseshoes and bars!
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Thanks Andy; is the horseshoe the "loop" that the chain is connected to? Feel like I'm in an old western all this discussion of saddles, horseshoes and bars!
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Kevin.

Correct on the horseshoe.

Well, the old saying "head em up and move em out", applies to Airstreaming, too, ya know.

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Alright Andy I'll bite and we will both show our age: Oh hearts calculatin my true love will be waitin be waitin at the end of my ride, head em up move em out, move em out head em up rawhide! Ok so now I have embarrassed myself in front of all, but what the heck big Clint fan, you know the last name! Now you owe me go down the rocky road.... what # rating for the bars?
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Alright Andy I'll bite and we will both show our age: Oh hearts calculatin my true love will be waitin be waitin at the end of my ride, head em up move em out, move em out head em up rawhide! Ok so now I have embarrassed myself in front of all, but what the heck big Clint fan, you know the last name! Now you owe me go down the rocky road.... what # rating for the bars?
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Aloha.

For which trailer?

And, for which "exact" tow vehicle?

The number rating for the best bar at home that I go to, is # 1, then # 3.

The number 2 bar, has way to many young pretty ladies. You know, distractions.

Mahalo.

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Andy, the truck is a Toyota Tundra SR5 4x2 V8 pushing a GCWR of 11,800 with 282 hp @5400 rpm. The Airstream a garden variety 1964 tradewind, wt 3480 hitch wt 350. It will be built back close to orig wt. assuming I ever complete it!
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Andy, the truck is a Toyota Tundra SR5 4x2 V8 pushing a GCWR of 11,800 with 282 hp @5400 rpm. The Airstream a garden variety 1964 tradewind, wt 3480 hitch wt 350. It will be built back close to orig wt. assuming I ever complete it!
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Aloha Kevin.

I would suggest the lowest rating Reese dual cam hitch, namely 600 pounds.

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Thanks for coming to the rescue once again, sorry none of the faces had cowboy hats.

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Thanks for coming to the rescue once again, sorry none of the faces had cowboy hats.

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Maybe next time.

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Well I bought the whole deal, only problem is the bars are 1000lbs, I think; because the width looks like 1 3/16.? So... if anyone wants to do some horse tradin for some heavier bars let me know.(had to use that term as this thread has taken on a western theme)
And any tips I should know about installation fire away. I read (after purchase of course) That a min. hitch wt of 400lbs is req. and my tw is only 350... but if that is true then why did it come from the factory with a dual cam? Confused, but that is how life is: information comes bits at a time.
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Well I bought the whole deal, only problem is the bars are 1000lbs, I think; because the width looks like 1 3/16.? So... if anyone wants to do some horse tradin for some heavier bars let me know.(had to use that term as this thread has taken on a western theme)
And any tips I should know about installation fire away. I read (after purchase of course) That a min. hitch wt of 400lbs is req. and my tw is only 350... but if that is true then why did it come from the factory with a dual cam? Confused, but that is how life is: information comes bits at a time.
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Kevin.

Did you measure the tongue weight with the trailer fully loaded?

If the 350 pounds is the factory info, that weight is with zero payload.

The water in the front as well as the full LPG tanks, will add to that weight, plus things you may place under the front dinette or lounge, as the case may be.

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Well I bought the whole deal, only problem is the bars are 1000lbs, I think; because the width looks like 1 3/16.? So... if anyone wants to do some horse tradin for some heavier bars let me know.(had to use that term as this thread has taken on a western theme)
And any tips I should know about installation fire away. I read (after purchase of course) That a min. hitch wt of 400lbs is req. and my tw is only 350... but if that is true then why did it come from the factory with a dual cam? Confused, but that is how life is: information comes bits at a time.
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The hitch weight as reported by the factory is the empty hitch weight. It doesn't reflect the weight imposed by any of the following:
  • Propane carried in the LP bottles.
  • Water carried in the fresh water tank.
  • Any fluids carried in the waste tank.
  • The coach's house battery.
  • The weight of any options or accessories installed.
  • The weight of personal possessions carried in the coach.
As examples, my coaches typically line up as follows:
  • 1964 Overlander Land Yacht International - -
    • 4,450 pounds Empty Weight as equipped
    • 500 pounds Empty Hitch Weight as equipped
      • 6,000 pounds typical loaded weight
      • 700 pounds typical loded hitch weight
  • 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre --
    • 2,450 pounds Empty Weight as equipped
    • 395 pounds Empty Hitch Weight as equipped
      • 3,100 pounds typical loaded weight
      • 550 pounds typical loaded hitch weight
When calculating weights for hitch adjustments, it is necessary to work with the typical loaded weight of your coach. Ideally, the coach should be loaded maintain 12% to 15% of total coach weight on the hitch. Part of the reason that the Minuet carries a heavy hitch weight is the fact that the fresh water tank is mounted immediately below the front window which places much of the on-board water supply weight on the hitch. The Overlander's water tank is mounted above the streetside axles so the onboard fresh water supply doesn't have as much of an impact on the hitch weight.

Good luck with your hitch setup. I feel certain that you will like the dual cam system. I have the original style Reese Strait-Line Dual Cam hitch on both of my coaches.

Kevin
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